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Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - E (11th Jun 2020 �13:39:04) Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum Currently, it is not compulsory for primary or secondary school students to be educated on Britain's role in colonisation, or the transatlantic slave trade. We petition the government to make education on topics such as these compulsory, with the ultimate aim of a far more inclusive curriculum. If you want more information or to sign the petition please follow the link: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/324092

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - B (11th Jun 2020 �14:08:18) No problem with this. It's our history, we were involved in the slave trade and we were also the first country to abolish it. I can't tell if the petition includes teaching the latter - if it does, happy to sign.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - I (11th Jun 2020 �14:24:11) Absolutely but can you trust the teaching unions etc to deliver a balanced history or just a left leaning Britain is bad indoctrination

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - E (11th Jun 2020 �15:22:09) I, I don't see why you don't trust the teaching unions. You send your kids to school don't you? Do they still receive an education?

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Joe (11th Jun 2020 �16:31:58) :'B' although we were the first nation to pass anti slavery laws we were the nation in the world who trafficked the most slaves around the planet and made the most profit out of it. More than just "involved " we were the leading nation in this. I always feel ashamed about this barbaric period of our history.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Think About It (11th Jun 2020 �16:43:05) Slavery, conquest, subjugation, exploitation, it's part of everyone's history, perhaps especially Africa as a continent, if we keep writing history only as bad white people and singling them out for the baddies we'll just keep perpetuating resentment or hate and counter hate like a pendulum, I've long past expected people to talk of British history with pride, those days are of a different era, different people no longer here, it's too tainted for that anymore, perhaps a better balance between pride and self flagellation that creates endless resentment amongst races, let's not stir a one side anti (white) British history narrative and expect people to come together! Tell me another country that teaches it's kids to despise it's past? One other? We are the most multicultural country on Earth by choice, with people from so many backgrounds trying to come together, we need understand how to heal, like Nelson Mandela said, forgive and move on, not constantly snipe and retell, none of us is without sin, he was a greater man than any of us, I doubt any of us could have endured what he did and still saved countless lives through forgiveness and positive reform! (and even Mandela's past was chequered with terrorism of the most depraved kind, but only a fool would dredge it up constantly or judge him by his past history rather than his later history!) Let it rest, we can do this without indoctrination of our kids, they don't need to be burdened with our resentments, history can be an excuse for endless grudges that go on forever! Of course whenever a country writes it's history it was in the past ALWAYS blinkered with patriotic jingoistic pride and now modern telling should be more balanced especially as it is no longer just white people here writing it, as more races write our history it will be better balanced and we need sensible politicians to make sure it unites us all not divides us with negativity. Just my view, let's avoid storing up further resentment and division amongst the young than what is already there, do we have more Mandelas out there? Peace All.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - i (11th Jun 2020 �16:50:02) I think our teachers do an absolutely brilliant job, one of the most important there is. Unfortunately like so many unions the teacher unions are a hotbed of leftist extremism who often put their political agenda ahead of both their members and our children's well being. I suspect E your original post was not all it claimed to be and almost certainly has a political agenda!

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - B (11th Jun 2020 �16:50:34) Joe, you have missed my point, deliberately I think. Out of interest, you say we trafficked the most slaves and made the most money from them. Can you evidence that please? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'd just like to educate myself better and people are bandying around statements like yours currently without any facts to back them up. If you're ashamed about our past involvement in slavery, which you have every right to be, you should also be proud of our role in abolishing it and it's equally important that that is recognised.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - i (11th Jun 2020 �16:54:27) I arbore prejudice of any kind but I will never feel ashamed about what some distant ancestors did in the past. There are many other countries whose pasts could be deemed by todays values evil, how far back do you want to go!

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Frank (11th Jun 2020 �16:59:20) UK wasn't the first to abolish it, many others already had either partially, in full and or legally of which there are dozens of examples well before the UK in the 1800's going back as far as the 3rd century BC with the Maurya Empire. The French even abolished it well before the UK considered it only to start it back up again. Also being first to stop (which isn't true) is hardly something to get credit with is it? "oh we stopped doing bad things first" whereas many countries never even did it. The British Empire was built on it, and its bizarrely still a source of great pride to many an Englishman today. We don't need specific lessons on it in school, its called "History" just stop hiding it and perhaps the humility from that might get other nations to not hate us as much.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Rölli (11th Jun 2020 �17:18:16) Blimey, imagine how guilty you would be if you were from Belgium!

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Leyla (11th Jun 2020 �17:35:48) 'I' is right, the issue is with how balanced could it be, and indeed how to avoid the overwhelming Left-wing manipulation and presentation of facts. We all know the horror stories (anecdotal or less so), images and historical reproductions of Europeans enslaving Africans. Sure it should be included in the syllabus, as should the holocaust. If we wish to take collective blame for it - I do not - as one nation versus the other (e.g. I am British therefore I am responsible for whatever any British person had ever done wrong), then we must also note that: 1) There were British people, born in Britain, captured on the British isles by Africans or middle sterns, then sold for slavery in Africa and the middle-east for their local demand. 2) Britain, as a nation, had provided most infrastructure and potential wealth to the colonies. The locals are not grateful? Should Britain claim it back? How much is it worth £££? 3) Britain as a nation has and is paying huge amounts of £££ to ex-colonies, shall we review the balance? Shall we look at how much £££ anti-slavery protesters have benefited from philanthropy and The State? 4) There were native people in the ex-colonies, non-Europeans, who gladly participated and greatly benefited £££ from trading their compatriots as slaves. But it's not all about money, it's also about how humanity functions, how we define slavery and how perspectives alter through history. Wrong and right change with the passage of time. What about modern slavery, and how it is so much more prevalent in ex-colonies than elsewhere?

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - E (11th Jun 2020 �17:56:08) I, My post was NOT political at all. I left school around 2 years ago and was not taught about this part of important history. I don't care for politics never have, if I agree with something I'll stand by it, I strongly believe that school pupils should be taught about the history that people claim we are trying to remove.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - E (11th Jun 2020 �18:02:46) Think about it, Our history directly affects us today and other countries. Its not about saying that Britain is a sh*t country its about saying that we have done wrong and we need to fix that.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - George (11th Jun 2020 �19:28:26) Well if we are going to be ashamed at the habits and behaviour of our ancestors let’s really go to town 1) All men for the oppression and subjugation of women for the majority of history 2) The French/Norman’s for the enslavement of the native Anglo/Saxons with the introduction of feudal serfdom, the social implications of which we still live today 3) the Anglo/Saxons (with some Jutes and others) for the almost complete eradication of our native British ancestors Where do we stop! Should I also feel guilty because I watched Jim’ll fix it, Benny Hill and Bernard Manning. I wouldn’t watch or enjoy them now but I certainly do not feel any shame that I used to! Stupid original post, so many people seem to get off on jumping on this particular bandwagon, somehow trying to feel better about themselves by shedding crocodile tears for the pain of the PAST!

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - E (11th Jun 2020 �20:59:02) I think people are missing the point. I am not going to argue with you, you are all entitled to your own opinion.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Joe (11th Jun 2020 �21:41:19) The facts about slavery are on Wikipedia. The fact that the wealth made from slavery and invading other countries for their riches helped build the British Empire seems to have rattled some cages. I am not proud of an ancestry which gave a few baubles in return for the right to throw the natives off of their own lands and made servants out of them. Yes some other countries followed suit but the pink of the British Empire ruled in most continents.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Eric (11th Jun 2020 �23:05:19) Leyla. You’ve got me on my knees. It’s not only slavery we made millions from. We systematically raped the countries of the British Empire of their wealth and assets.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - John (11th Jun 2020 �23:53:13) So the best defences put forward so far are; 1. Others did it 2. We stopped doing it Pathetic! No humility, that’s what we are famous for globally and it keeps costing us again and again as we are so far up ourselves.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - D (12th Jun 2020 �08:51:59) E, I was in school in the 1970's and the British/American slave trade was frequently referred to (long before Alex Haley's "Roots" came along). It has never been denied or brushed under the carpet as many people seemed to think last weekend whilst breaking the lockdown rules aimed at preventing the spread of coronavirus. Would you advocate the teaching of African nations enslaving thousands of English people kidnapped on the south coast of England as well? I don't ever remember THAT being mentioned at school.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Old Churcherian (12th Jun 2020 �10:27:23) As Churchers College was founded by Richard Churcher, an eminent member of The East India Company who were notorious slave traders, perhaps some would have that whole equation revisited. You can go on for ever about historical events that might or might not be glorified, such as the deaths of thousands of German children in Hamburg, Bremen and Dresden. No one should condone racism - but history cannot be erased or re-written

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Joe (12th Jun 2020 �10:45:30) Hopefully the issues raised now will lead to greater understanding of why people are angry about what happened in America. The statues - a good analogy would be if in modern day germany there were statues of prominent members of the third Reich everywhere.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Leyla (12th Jun 2020 �11:21:57) We could have a sensible civilised argument about historic slavery and its legacy. For that we must have a very clear definition of what Slavery is: chained to a tree? Zero hours? Then we must have conclusive and widespread evidence of it. Most likely in the form of documents, the documents must stand all types of scrutiny, including forensic tests against “alterations”. But that would be the less likely scenario. Alternatively, we could go on a screaming competition, sensationalism, Hollywood history, Disney narratives, trial by media and angry mobs. Then continue a race to the bottom that leads to violence against civil servants and ISIS-type vandalism of national monuments. The blatantly racist slogan “BLACK lives matter” is no doubt winning the shouting argument. Having established that slavery was indeed widespread and a very British thing, we could then look into the maths. After all, in order to have proven slavery existed (evidence) then we should have an idea how much wealth £££ had been generated from it. Next, we should look at how much £££ ex-colonies (and individual immigrants and their descendent from ex-colonies) have benefited from the empire past and present (infrastructure, aide, grants abroad and any state help, benefits in the UK to individuals). After all, if white British are responsible for past imperialists, then British people of ex-colonies backgrounds are – by that extraordinary logic - are immigrants' children. Once we looked at the comparison we might then perhaps judge past actions by today's morals. At this stage it might be interesting to see how Britain compares with other nations of ex-empires and of ex-colonies using the very same methodology, no concession. Quite how innocent ex-colonies were and are compared to Britain. Then we could point fingers and look into our conscious. If we then decided that we (native British) are all children of sinners nothing more, then we can chose between eternal self-flagellation or settling the bill, or learn to draw a line in the sand so long as we need to share this space with others, who are different. As for statues: Anyone who had contributed for anything, especially the relevant local community, should have the option of having a commemorative statue respected for what it is. Any influential figure, no matter how unpopular, even “%^*&%”L@^ Nazi figures. People have every right to hold any unfavourable opinion over the personality, but no right to deny it or vandalise it. The statue is there for information, no one is expected to idolise it. It is there as a mark for what was, what used to be, the future is anyone's guess. Make your own opinion, ideally get the facts right, educate yourself, discuss with others, preserve any history, no matter what. Vandalising a monument because it does not fit 100% with your own and current ideology is what ISIS and Al-Qaeda do.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Rölli (12th Jun 2020 �11:51:39) Joe, I think there is a lot more understanding on this than many of the protesters think. However the issue is probably a lot more sophisticated than many of the protesters are capable of understanding. Nazism was never an accepted regime by the majority of the world and was in the context of history a very brief abomination. The same with communism. However for most of history slavery and servitude of some kind or other were part and parcel of everyday life, by todays values abhorrent but in the day completely the norm, even to very good people. You simply cannot put todays values on history and to simply label everone in the past involved in slavery as evil is simplistic and naive

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - I (12th Jun 2020 �12:08:53) Haven’t seen many protesters challenging the Indian caste system or the almost legally tolerated mass rape that occurs in Indian society with the collusion of the police!

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Joe (12th Jun 2020 �12:38:11) To the poster who required evidence there is plenty particularly the maritime records which recorded humans as "cargo" im fact there was a famous court case involving a slave ship where the human cargo died and insurance was claimed. A film was made about it. Just because people do not know history does not mean there is no "evidence"

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Joe (12th Jun 2020 �12:46:20) For the poster who required evidence have a look on WIkipedia under Zong Massacre. Also statues are not put up merely for "information" that is why the statue of Saddam Hussain was toppled.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - B (12th Jun 2020 �13:49:28) Joe. Thanks for your response. You made what was a very definitive statement - "we were the nation in the world who trafficked the most slaves around the planet and made the most profit out of it." Yet you have no evidence to back this up? You just "know" because you "know" your history. This was at the same time you played down our role in ending slavery. Please provide some facts - facts are the only things truth and therefore understanding can be based on. The records you cite just show that our involvement is irrefutable - nobody is questioning that. But to say what you actually said needs some sort of empirical evidence to back it up.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Think About It (12th Jun 2020 �14:59:09) This is a knee jerk reaction, good policy is rarely made on the hoof. Consider this; In greater London approx 60% of the 12 million are 'non white' by self definition. As the 'white' population is an inverse pyramid, we know that the majority of whites are over 50, the non whites are a classic, healthy pyramid, most are under 20 in the pyramid. It is estimated that 80% of London schoolchildren are 'non white' by definition (in many schools 90% plus) and nearly 400 languages spoken as first tongue. Now imagine teaching every child about slavery from a bad British perspective. Will the 90% sit there thinking 'gosh this is about us!'? Will the white children feel 'oh shit, this is about me!' How is this inclusive and not divisive and have you thought how those white kids would feel? Do you care? Teaching this as history in schools would be propaganda (as most history is) to satisfy a socialist knee jerk emotional response. It would entrench division and resentment and just reverse discrimination. Despite what people feel right now, Britain has moved further than just about any other country. this happened in the US, or have we all forgotten that? Yet it is an excuse to take aim at white Britain, how racist is that??? I hear many Churchill and Baden-Powell statues who started the scouts must go/ have been targeted (to name just 2) and are being removed or boarded up for protection. But what about all the stately homes? That's the national trust stuffed, pull them all down? After all, many made money off slavery or other abuses, often abuses against the poor British, most of whom had nothing to do with slavery or Empire and lived in abject poverty. 99% of historical figures partook in the inequality between men and women, pull down every male statue? JK Rowling is under fire for criticising the trans community. Burn all her books? There was a sad article in the JPost the other day explaining that anti Jewish racism has rocketed across the world after this, because Jews are perceived as 'white' and in racist circles 'the whitest of all' due to their relative homogeny. So when people attack Jews now they often slur them with the prefix 'white Jews' to sort of double up on the target for hate. In fact the prefix 'white' is now being seen as the bigger target for hate. racism is not going to die away by self flagellation of white people by white people and retelling our sins to the children in isolation. It won't be the older generation (who fought for freedom from tyranny and equality) who will suffer most, it's the young children. Division will be the unforeseen consequence. there is a video you may (not) have seen on British media. A group of white Christian parishioners kneel down to a group of black people who stand at the front of them. The whites kneel and beg the black people to forgive them for their white privilege and historical crimes. The blacks stand there. You may feel this is good, but it is a clear racial segregating of guilt by skin colour and it is sickening. is this what you wish to achieve? we live in a white area and our kids could handle these lessons,but how would a white child in a class of black children feel, it would be a lesson aimed at them, not the black children. it's not therefore a lesson in bad British history, but bad white history, it is in itself divisive and a backward step to integration. Integration is what we are (or should be) aiming for, coming together, good or bad (nobody is perfect). Multiculturism is a failure, Trevor Phillips ex head of the CRE told us this very clearly, backed up by many scholars, multiculturism is division, separateness, different communities, integration is coming together, the building of a new people. But, wait, slavery was an african trade, it was a black on black and black on white trade for thousands of years, would it fit your agenda to teach the children that (nooo way I'd guess). And nor should we be teaching that divisive clap. Some ignorant person said whites went and offered worthless glass mirrors and beads for humans. In trade, nothing is WORTHLESS, if you want it. Wealth is about scarcity and demand, therefore exchange of goods takes an abundant (cheap) produce to an area where the items are scarce and therefore valuable, in exchange for what is abundant there (cheap), so that both traders become wealthy in their own communities. This is as it was, still the basics for understanding the nature of wealth that the traders on both sides understood back then, but the modern socialist seem ignorant about. ACTUALLY white traders went to trade and the Africans offered to sell them slaves from the already thriving AFRICAN slave markets. Both sides were AS GUILTY but it was still an African trade. Africans selling africans, can you excuse that??? go on you will try, but what is worse, trading in your own people or a people you hardly knew>? EITHER WAY IT IS HISTORY and we should leave it there! Whites had no opinion of African people, racism didn't yet exist as black people were virtually unknown to most whites. Any association of black/ white equating to good/ bad was a very unfortunate coincidence based on biblical concepts at that moment of light/ darkness etc, not people. Racism grew from these experiences, no doubt sewn by the traders who needed to ingrain a contempt towards black folk in order to gain acquiescence from the British government, but it fizzled out as people became sickened and yes, white Britain was the FIRST to completely ban slavery which continues TODAY in many other countries. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT! Will this be taught, the one thing that could bring people together or overlooked to fulfill the pc crusade against white British history?? Britain has been moving forward at UNPRECEDENTED pace towards equality. NEVER has a country VOLUNTARILY gone from virtually 100% one race to rapidly approaching 50/50 in about 50 years. We talk about endemic white racism, do you find this level of acceptance in ANY non white nation? We talk of racism in Bristol where the Mayor is black, in London where the Mayor is Asian, I've been to both recently there is a better more equal mix of races in just those 2 cities than I've yet seen in any other city except New York! Thanks for reading, sorry not got time to proof read I'm going into work now, sure to be lots of errors but these are my thoughts at this moment (errors and omissions excepted!). If I notice any big errors I will try to correct later as this subject is very important, should not be imposed on Britain in this emotional climate, no way, 100% opposed to it. I feel you're misguided proposals are unhelpful to the progress of integration going forward, which is very important to me. peace and love to All.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - R (12th Jun 2020 �16:07:17) Unfortunately debates on this and related subjects does tend to attract the do gooder brigade that spout off that white oppression is the cause of all the worlds racial problems, both now and in the past. They also tend to think of England in purely negative terms. They are ill informed and often just plain ignorant.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Frank (12th Jun 2020 �17:20:36) We should wind some of the silly arguments in here, re Churchers school etc, no one is talking about deleting history as that is impossible. Nor are we talking about all of history in terms of dates either. What we are talking about is to remove any "celebration" of individuals whom got to their position mostly from slavery in the last two centuries. Therefore a statue of a man whom benefited from slavery shouldn't be triumphantly stood domineering over the public in public spaces. That is wrong. If you wanna put the statue in a museum then fine, but a character like that shouldn't be given the grace of a public pedestal. There is no need to start coming up with nonsense like "oh the Romans where hardly nice people, should be dig up all the roads"

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Leyla (12th Jun 2020 �19:51:05) As stated above, it is clear BAME are the rising future majority in the UK. Whites are being blamed (and according to some, ALL whites) for COVID19 in BAME (interestingly more so in the UK), they are being blame for brutality by a minority 200 years ago, they are blamed for BAME economic status... Anti-white people not keen on white monuments take it upon themselves to vandalise. Look back 90 years ago. When one race is blamed for all illness in society, vandalism by deranged mobs took place. Millions were killed for being the hated racial minority. “BLACK lives mater” following Mein Kampf step-by-step. Wake up? Unpopular statues right to stay where they were designed to be: Much thought and efforts were put into our monuments creation and positioning. Controversial statues have stood centuries and millennia of public – at times heated - debates, but the debates were amongst civilised tolerant, sensible and informed people. The statues were appreciated for their historical, local and / or creative value. What we see with this current wave of vandalism is different; it fits in well with extreme Islamic terrorists and fascists ideologies. Racial profiling seems to be legitimised when BAME are the perceived victims; we suddenly have the data from nowhere. What about BAME crime? BAME State dependence? All very one-way, undemocratic and unfair.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Terry (12th Jun 2020 �23:05:05) Leyla, Before I start all sources are listed below. "Unpopular statues right to stay where they were designed to be: Much thought and efforts were put into our monuments creation and positioning. Controversial statues have stood centuries and millennia of public – at times heated - debates, but the debates were amongst civilised tolerant, sensible and informed people. The statues were appreciated for their historical, local and / or creative value. What we see with this current wave of vandalism is different; it fits in well with extreme Islamic terrorists and fascists ideologies. " Many communities have asked for statues to be removed and have been ignored. In my personal opinion, statues should be reviewed on a decade basis to check for their relevance at the moment and the history they were responsible for. People have asked/petitioned for statues to be removed however have been ignored or have not received as much attention as it should have done. Edward Colston's statue had a petition for it to be removed which barely received 300 signatures until earlier this week/last week. It is not terrorism, to clarify the definition of terrorism is the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, against civilians for political aims. It is vandalism and criminal damage not terrorism. "Racial profiling seems to be legitimised when BAME are the perceived victims; we suddenly have the data from nowhere. What about BAME crime? BAME State dependence? All very one-way, undemocratic and unfair. " First of, for the people who do not know BAME stands for Black, Asian and Minority ethnic. Lets cover the population, 86% of the population in England and Wales are White, 7.5% are Asian, 3.3% are Black, 2.2 are Mixed and 1% is other. The following statistics are from 2018 White offenders have had a consistently lower average custodial sentence length (ACSL) for indictable offences than all other ethnic groups since 2014. In 2018, White offenders had an ACSL of 18.3 months compared to 29.1 months for Asian offenders, 28.0 months for Black offenders, 23.3 months for Chinese or Other offenders and 22.2 months for offenders from Mixed ethnic groups. The proportion of stop and searches conducted on White suspects decreased from 75% in 2014/15 to 59% in 2018/19 and increased for all minority ethnic groups. The largest increases were from 13% to 22% for Black suspects and from 8% to 13% for Asian suspects. The following data is from 2018/2019 The number of race hate crimes increased by 11 per cent (between 2017/18 - 2018/19) The majority of hate crimes were race hate crimes, accounting for around threequarters of offences (76%; 78,991 offences). These increased by 11 per cent between 2017/18 and 2018/19. This is then followed by an increase of 37% for Transgender people, an increase of 25% for Sexual orientation, an increase of 14% for Disability and an increase of 3% for Religion. Black people are over 3 times more likely yo be arrested as white people. Black women are more than twice as likely to be arrested as White women. That is at a rate of 35 arrests for every 1000 black people and 10 arrests for every 1000 white people. People with Mixed ethnicity were nearly twice as likely to be arrested as White people, there were 19 arrests for every 1000 people with Mixed ethnicity and 10 arrests for every 1000 white people. In Hampshire, there 59 arrests out of 1000 for Black people, and 9 out of 1000 for White people. Let's move on to employment/pay 18% of people living in Asian and Other ethnic group households had a persistent low income, the highest percentages out of all ethnic groups whereas 8% of people living in White households had a persistent low income, the lowest percentage out of all ethnic groups. Children in Asian (27%) and Black (16%) households were more likely to live in persistent low income than those in White households (10%). Average hourly pay, for 2018 by ethnicity. Indian people were paid on average £13.47, followed by Asian Other at £12.50 followed by Mixed at £12.16, followed by White British at £11.90, followed by White at £11.87, followed by Asian at £11.80, followed by White Other at £11.55 followed by Other at £10.95, followed by Black at £10.80, followed by Pakistani/Bangladeshi at £9.62. If you look at the source you will also see that the Black ethnic group received the smallest increase at 5.2%. State Support, White British families were the most likely group to receive state support with 57% doing so. Black ethnic groups were more likely to receive Child Benefit, White ethnic groups were more likely to receive Disability Living Allowance (Both care and mobility component. Education: Pupil exclusions Gypsy and Roma, and Traveller of Irish Heritage pupils had the highest school exclusion rates (both permanent and temporary) in the 2017 to 2018 school year Mixed White and Black Caribbean, and Black Caribbean pupils also had high exclusion rates, and were both nearly 3 times as likely to be permanently excluded as White British pupils pupils from the Chinese and Indian ethnic groups had the lowest exclusion rates People living in the most deprived 10% of neighbourhoods Black ethnic groups at 19.6%, followed by Asian ethnic groups at 17.1%, followed by Other at 16.8%, followed by Mixed at 14.6% and lastly White at 8.7%. Among the broad ethnic groups, Black people were most likely to live in the most deprived neighbourhoods, followed by Asian people – 19.6% and 17.1% of these groups lived in the most deprived 10% of neighbourhoods These statistics are not new. Hate Crime has been recorded since around 2012, it is just because the government is getting better at recording statistics from ethnicity groups. Sources: Petition for Edward Colston's statue article: bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/how-city-failed-remove-edward-4211771 Population for England and Wales: ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/national-and-regional-populations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest Crime: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/849200/statistics-on-race-and-the-cjs-2018.pdf Hate crime: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/839172/hate-crime-1819-hosb2419.pdf Arrests: ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest Persistent low income: www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/pay-and-income/low-income/latest Hourly pay: ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/pay-and-income/average-hourly-pay/latest State support: ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/benefits/state-support/latest Education: Pupil Exclusions: ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/education-skills-and-training/absence-and-exclusions/pupil-exclusions/latest Deprived neighbourhoods: ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/demographics/people-living-in-deprived-neighbourhoods/latest

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - George (13th Jun 2020 �08:40:03) A hundred years or so ago the left caused untold turmoil by convincing millions that the society then was built on the historic oppression and exploitation of the working classes. It caused massive social upheaval, the rise in fascism and ultimately the Second World War and Cold War afterwards. The left are now using Black Lives Matter to foster the belief that our society today has been built on historic oppression and exploitation of the black races. Their aim is not racial harmony, it is in fact the opposite! They want to provoke a right wing reaction to once again see the dismantling of our society. This is absolutely no longer about the evils of slavery, it’s become totally political.

Re: Teach Britain's colonial past as part of the UK's compulsory curriculum - Jack (13th Jun 2020 �14:56:21) I am seeing some truly unpleasant views being expressed on here. These are from new names and I wonder Editor whether Talkback is being targeted by right wing trolls. There is a new thread now from a John Bull, clearly designed to stir-up right wing reactions I understand that people are frightened by civil unrest and of course there is a COVID concern related to that. I am not convinced, however, that the general populace of Liphook is so very concerned with the temporary boarding up of Churchill's statue than with genuinely local issues affecting living people. It is clear that BLM is being undermined by some with other agendas, but the fact that Ghandi and Nelson Mandela's statues are also boarded-up this weekend to protect them from right-wing racist thugs is overlooked. BAME communities are routinely discriminated against and are are often subject to suspicion in this country. Reading the threads here you would think that Liphook has a crime problem involving ethnic minorities. From what I read, crime in Liphook is almost exclusively perpetrated by people from my own race. The BLM movement is an interesting, defining and overdue piece of history in the making. I don't agree with vandalism and hope the assaults on public art die down (which is what boarding up is designed to do). That said, it is hardly surprising that the good people of Bristol reacted as they did to the affront of a slave trader being so celebrated in statues and street names there, despite years of campaigning for change. A fair few of the posts here seem to blame the left, which suggests this forum is being targeted. I am not a Labour supporter, but it is clear that Sir Kier Starmer's response to the situation has been measured and calm. I have seen no evidence that BLM is a conspiracy of the left. The Times reports today that Keir Starmer is now on an equal footing with Boris for popularity in the country and I do wonder if this change in Labour's fortunes might be why we are seeing such a nasty campaign on forums and social media. Talkback is becoming quite an unpleasant read, which is a shame as it has always been a great local resource and is very well run for the benefit of the community.

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