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Ice hazard
- Steve miller (17th Jan 2023 - 15:17:32)

Perhaps HCC highways might like to add some urgent safety related work at the Griggs Green bend on Longmoor Road to it's to do list.
Some poor soul's car has ended up in the stream next to the bridge, presumably as a result of sheet ice forming across the road due to the constant flow of surface water running across the road and last night's extreme frost.
This has been an accident waiting to happen for many years. Hopefully the driver on this occasion escaped without too much damage.

Re: Ice hazard
- Paul (17th Jan 2023 - 16:48:47)

People need to slow down always bombing round the bend
Sometimes on wrong side of road cutting corner

Re: Ice hazard
- lac (20th Jan 2023 - 16:17:26)

Not sure which bend, but if it's the one after the traffic calming narrowing of Longmoor Rd, heading into Liphook and just before the roundabout leading to the new estates then I'm not surprised. EHDC road planners decided to slow traffic down after a 60mph section by putting a 30mph limit (totally reasonable so far) but then proceeded to put in two road narrowing kerbs just before a hazardous ice prone bend. At the same time as slowing to 30mph, the driver also has to avoid the kerbs, check drivers coming the other way are not taking their side too widely and be prepared to stop if a large lorry is coming through the gap (not wide enough for lorry and car to pass safely). Add in the very poor lighting, insufficient road markings, an ice prone road surface with a sharp bend just after and they have created perfect conditions for an accident. This is one road safety creation which is anything but. I suggest EHDC road planners try driving down this road at night when its wet and between 5pm and 6pm to see just how hazardous it it.

Re: Ice hazard
- AF (25th Jan 2023 - 13:21:58)

I have an idea.

If it's frosty and icy SLOW DOWN.

Happy to help

Re: Ice hazard
- Richard (25th Jan 2023 - 18:19:06)

Next thing you will be suggesting is drive appropriately for the conditons! Radical thinking!! Never going to catch on in Liphook, as judging by numerous 'phone wielding drivers the laws of the land (or laws of physics) don't apply to them.

Re: Ice hazard
- lac (28th Jan 2023 - 13:57:57)

Puzzled by the last responses. Of course perfect drivers like AF and Richard will never have an accident caused by poor road layout. Think how much money could be saved if everyone was like them. No need to improve dangerous junctions or roads. This road layout is dangerous, Full stop. As for driving at an appropriate speed for the conditions, I hope these perfect drivers never find themselves driving at the wrong speed. I hope the driver who had the incident (police don't like the word accident) was unharmed. Interesting that ice warning signs were placed on the bend AFTER the incident. There has always been an ice problem on this stretch of road by the stream. Of course perfect drivers always know when ice is present and are never caught out.

Re: Ice hazard
- Richard (28th Jan 2023 - 16:47:25)

I drive or ride down that road 5 days a week. If I have just de-iced a car, I expect the roads to be icy and drive accordingly. Many years ago, I had an accident on ice because I wasn't driving to the condittions. I learned my lesson. If the road is hazardous whether due to weather, its design or maintenance level, drive appropriately for the hazard. This used to be called Common Sense.

I trust the drive is OK after their incident and no doubt has likely learned a valuable lesson. Drive to the conditions.

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