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Bramshott Rectory apple - Claire Matthes (10th Aug 2021 - 11:53:51) We recently discovered that Bramshott has its very own Heritage apple variety! Thought to have originated in the garden of Bramshott Rectory, Liphook, England, it was received by the National Fruit Trials in about 1938. As a Community Orchard Project based in nearby Haslemere, we find these stories of local fruit varieties fascinating and not a little romantic. So my questions are, does anyone knowingly have a Bramshott Rectory apple tree? Does anyone know of any local orchards (an orchard is six fruit trees or more)? And does Bramshott Rectory still exist (from circa 1938)? We'd love to know!

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - tom rowe (10th Aug 2021 - 14:20:08) now called glebe house ,

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - MIKE (10th Aug 2021 - 15:13:14) I expect you have already Googled this Apple, there are many sites which mention it, and I did notice one which offers to supply it in grafted form if you order it. So presumably there is going to be a donor/parent tree somewhere.

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Karen (12th Aug 2021 - 14:04:42) Hailie, on Portsmouth Road, was Bramshott Rectory from around 1917 to 2000 - see research.hgt.org.uk/item/hailie The orchard was sold off for development when the house was sold by the church, and there is now only one original apple tree left in the garden. I didn't know that there was a Bramshott Rectory apple - I wonder whether the remaining apple tree is of this variety!

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Joe (12th Aug 2021 - 14:53:16) I am confused. Glebe house is in Rectory lane Bramshott. It would make sense to have previously been the Bramshott rectory. Why would Bramshott Rectory be in Portsmouth rd Liphook?

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - gr (12th Aug 2021 - 16:01:05) Maybe because LIphook is in the parish of Bramshott

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Karen (12th Aug 2021 - 17:22:41) I believe that Glebe House was the rectory prior to Hailie

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Joe (12th Aug 2021 - 22:15:56) The Parish church is in Bramshott the church centre off the Portsmouth Rd is a relatively new building and would not have had a rectory. The entries on the website that links to the thread has several errors on it relating to Liphook.

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Joe (12th Aug 2021 - 22:45:40) Apologies for earlier post -an online article explained why it was known as the rectory, as it was owned by the church commissioners for many years. When Inigo Triggs first designed it, the house was called Hailie. Do not ever think it was referred to as Bramshott Rectory just “ The Rectory”.

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - JP (12th Aug 2021 - 23:11:02) I know that back in the 70's or 80's Lord Selborne, who owned the Blackmoor estate, was very interested in unusual apple varieties so it may be worth contacting the Blackmoor Apple Farm to see if they have any examples of this variety. I can remember Lord Selborne coming out to look at one of our apple trees to see if it was a rare ancient variety although I don't remember the outcome.

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Claire Matthes (13th Aug 2021 - 15:19:44) Thanks everyone! I too followed the leads and yes, it would appear that Hailie down Portsmouth Road was Bramshott Rectory in the years that the Apple was presented to the National Fruit Collection. It had orchards until removed for development at the start of this century. Our hope is to source one and plant it in Liphook near where it originated from.

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Mike (13th Aug 2021 - 17:57:32) Just a little further information about Bramshott Rectory. If you look online at 'Detailed old Victorian Ordnance Survey maps 6" to the mile. 1883-1913, the original Bramshott Rectory can be seen marked clearly in Rectory Lane, Bramshott, next to Downland Cottages. However, the information about the house in Portsmouth Road Liphook is fascinating. The maps I mentioned above are very helpful, because you can overlay the modern maps using a slider which fades them in or out. Be warned though, when I first found them I couldn't stop looking at all the places I'd ever lived until about 2am in the morning. Happy viewing!

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Claire Matthes (27th Aug 2021 - 16:10:23) Probably you guessed that I've been doing a bit of research prior to this announcement about proposed plans for a Community Orchard in Bramshott and Liphook?! I'm so grateful for the chatter and information that has been generated here. I feel that this is a particularly special orchard proposal due to the fascinating story behind the Bramshott Rectory apple. And there's still more research to do! Which will be shared as I verify details and seek certain permissions We know that here in Liphook we are blessed with several wide, open recreation spaces which have been a particular boon to local residents during the pandemic. Bramshott and Liphook Parish Council are now proposing to provide its residents with a quieter, contemplative and fruitful space in the form of a Community Orchard on an area of parish-owned land at Fletchers Field. They are working with us, Community Orchard Project South East (COPSE www.copseorchardproject.org) to explore this idea in more detail and gather residents’ thoughts and ideas about how they might use this very special space. MORE info to follow...

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple and a Community Orchard garden space - Claire Matthes (5th Sep 2021 - 10:15:34) A Community Orchard for Liphook Event Saturday 11th September. You’re warmly invited to drop by next Saturday (11th September) at Fletchers Field between 11am and 2pm to our info pop up. Find out more about the Community Orchard space, share ideas, discuss concerns. Learn the story of Bramshott and Liphook’s very own heritage apple variety, the Bramshott Rectory. More event info to follow… There is a map and proposed design on our website www.copseorchardproject.org Please do drop by if you can.

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple and Community Orchard - Claire (17th Sep 2021 - 16:26:31) Many thanks to all those who dropped by at Fletchers Field on Saturday at the Community Info Pop Up with their questions and ideas about A Community Orchard for Liphook. The sun shone on us and we were lucky enough to get to talk to a number of Liphook residents with the help of parish councillors Jeanette, Simon, Debbie and Peter to answer local concerns. Please find and follow a new group to help people connect around and share ideas for A Community Orchard for Liphook. Search 'Friends of Liphook Community Orchard'. It's a page in development so please bear with! facebook.com/Friends-of-Liphook-Community-Orchard-101590032275754/

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple and Liphook Community Orchard Planting Day - Claire Matthes (20th Feb 2022 - 19:04:50) If you haven't yet seen on posters and other social media channels I'd like to invite you to drop by at the Liphook Community Orchard Planting Day THIS WEDNESDAY 23rd February from 1.30pm at Fletchers Field. Get involved with the digging, planting and protection of the trees or simply watch and cheer others on while enjoying cake and mulled apple juice. Either way, we'd be glad to see you. For more info contact clairematthes.copse@gmail.com or visit our website www.copseorchardproject.org In partnership with Bramshott and Liphook Parish Council. And hope you've been keeping safe during this stormy weather.

Re: Bramshott Rectory apple - Derek A Mills (9th May 2022 - 16:04:00) Hello, I grow two trees of Bramshott Rectory here in Ohio, United States. Great tasting apples. Derek also commented "The best pic I have of them is from National Fruit Collection at Brogdale in Kent and is attached. The pic I took of them a couple years ago is blurry and I have not retaken it yet. I also grow Howgate Wonder which is from Hampshire. I grow 1,700 heirloom and unusual different apple varieties of which probably a third are from England. thanks, Derek Mills Hocking Hills Orchard" Link to details and picture at the national fruit collection

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