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Drug dealing in Liphook - Sue (26th Jan 2021 - 19:06:11) See past threads on overt drug dealing in Liphook, and lack of law enforcement. Some would argue: Let them get high, no harm done. This evening news reported on a father of a family shot dead by drug dealers, apparently he owed them £100,000. Not a first, nor the last. For as long as these drugs are illegal and not successfully discouraged by society (police, families, courts, etc..) there will be carnage and other problems. Not quite 'no harm done'. So until the situation changes, next time you see illegal dug use or drug dealing, bear in mind the consequences in the wider community.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Concerned mum (27th Jan 2021 - 08:15:15) As a mum who has first hand experience of the damage and destruction and heart ache that drug abuse can cause within a family unit I will always encourage reporting to the police and hope that drug dealers who aim to make a living or a fast buck out of the vulnerable get the book thrown at them. Drugs have nearly destroyed our family over the past 6 years and I would not wish this worry and heartache on anyone, not even my enemy.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Sam (27th Jan 2021 - 15:58:55) Completely agree that this is a vile thing ruining lives but a 100k debt does not sound like a users debt? This should like that guy was also a dealer? Not saying it’s excuses what has happened but it’s probable this person was known as a dealer before death and that been swapped to a dad after death. Am not an expert but I think it’s nearly impossible to individually run up a drugs debt of 100k, that would take years and years of non payment.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Helen (27th Jan 2021 - 22:35:39) When I walked the dogs around 10.15pm tonight dealers were again dishing out the pill. Seemly a common occupancy now on London Rd in the pizza van’s lay-by (close to Canadian Memorial bridge) Plod free zone now it seems. Also rather amusingly two doggers were having steamy window time and oblivious to what was happening behind their little car :)

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - AF (28th Jan 2021 - 15:17:08) If the police won't come out for the drug dealing, mention the doggers who i'm sure they didn't have masks on and were probably not in the same bubble so were breaking COVID regs. You'll have half a dozen cars, a helicopter, a dog unit and the firearms team there in a jiffy.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Anon (2nd Feb 2022 - 09:52:21) This is now happening on a regular basis around Sainsbury's with young kids. The police should become actively involved as they must get their"stuff" local. Many shoppers complain about the smell but nothing is ever done.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - RM (2nd Feb 2022 - 12:55:25) Just wondering if everyone reported all of this to the police every week perhaps with photos and if we keep on bombarding them perhaps they might take notice. And also report it to the council because they own the millennium centre and run it .They might not like it if it got in to the media that drug taking was taking place on their premises.Just a thought.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - C (2nd Feb 2022 - 13:00:30) Absolutely. But everyone on this post who is concerned should report it - we can't just rely on others to do so. I'm happy to report it but would like the commitment from others that they will too.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Anon (2nd Feb 2022 - 15:13:10) It was reported last year to the police. They don't investigate unless there are more than 10 people who report it. It's not just outside Sainsburys, quite a few other places around the village as well. I remember the PM saying he was setting aside so much money to deal with county lines, doesn't seem to have had much effect so far down this way.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - C (2nd Feb 2022 - 15:29:15) Could also write to the local councillors expressing concern and inviting their support.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Joe (2nd Feb 2022 - 15:34:32) Roger, outsides of Sainsburys was mentioned but not inside the Milennium Hall. It could put passers by in danger if they photograph.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - RM (2nd Feb 2022 - 15:43:38) Good idea report it to our new county councillor I think she lives in Bramshott should be high up on her list . It’s about time Liphook got some recognition from HCC and the police they don’t seem to know where Liphook is on the map .

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - RM (2nd Feb 2022 - 15:55:24) Joe don’t see why shouldn’t be a problem because they are not on the pavement they are on council property if there was a camera on the building they would be on that. I noticed you put Roger replying to my post don’t presume I am not a Roger. I noticed you do that a lot replying to posts why is that .

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Joe (2nd Feb 2022 - 17:35:30) Sorry R M, about you not being Roger, but I still can only see a reference to Sainsburys not the Hall.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Rm (2nd Feb 2022 - 19:31:10) Sorry only sainsburys mentioned in this post but in one before the millennium hall was mentioned my mistake. Surely the security guard should report it to sainsburys manager and the police.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Anon (3rd Feb 2022 - 20:42:09) The security guard is worse than a chocolate fireguard judging by all the sweets being pilfered by Bohunt kids! I see them when I go shopping stuffing bags in their pockets and walking straight past him and smiling!

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - James (4th Feb 2022 - 11:22:42) Anon - assuming you are an adult, why don't you act the adult and either confront the kids yourself or alert the staff? There's not an x-ray machine at the exit to the store. Do you expect the security guard to fleece every kid on the way out to check their pockets? Don't think that would be acceptable to the vast majority of responsible young people.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - H (6th Feb 2022 - 20:17:37) Can’t understand why the Bohunt Kids are even allowed in the store. Unfortunately you cannot stop them. They are SO RUDE. Don’t listen to Security Guard or any member of staff trying to keep them in any order. Have actually witnessed them all congagrating right across the entrance just ignoring any one telling them to line up properly. The school ignore any response to this. Personally I believe a teacher or two should turn up unannounced to see how they all behave.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Alice (6th Feb 2022 - 22:29:12) H. It’s always the schools fault isn’t it????……NOT! Manners, respect & citizenship starts and is told modelled from the home, with the school as a guidance and an educator. Schools don’t have a fighting chance if home life isn’t supporting and upholding school policies and instilling right & wrong. Peer pressure is also massive. Don’t be quick to point the finger at the school, that’s the easy target. Get those kids parents in front of the CCTV then make a judgement.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Pete (7th Feb 2022 - 07:26:14) Well said Alice.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - H (7th Feb 2022 - 07:47:51) I’m not blaming the school. Once someone from the school came and the kids were better behaved. May be you should be shopping at 3.30. When all the little darlings are waiting to come in.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - er (7th Feb 2022 - 11:34:55) Well ok, so the behaviour of kids in large groups in Sainsbury's coming home from school is the parents fault. And if we put the parents in front of a video what would we see that proves this to us? Let me start with some of my misperceptions...maybe people in tracksuits, single mums, dad's in prison suits, perhaps poor people, foreigners, or maybe mum in a nurses uniform and dad driving a white van, or even a BMW (yes guilty Mr BMW driver, you are the worst offenders😂). But wait, perhaps we'd see mum or dad doing the laundry and cleaning the house, studying up their English or Maths to try and give their families a better life, how about most coke addicts are children of professionals? How about everything is not the parents fault, maybe the schools and society are an even bigger influence on teenagers lives than poor old mum and dad striving to put a roof over poor old, hard done by, little Olivia's head and food on the table for poor, misunderstood, Ben. Yes we live in an insular society, I didn't grow up this way, the local community watched out for each other more, shared emotional burdens, advice and even responsibility, but I guess nowadays we just blame the parents, probably their fault for having kids! PS the police often know exactly who the drug dealers are, do not kid yourselves Liphookonians, maybe they don't appear to be doing much because it can take years to bring a case against just one supplier, whose lawyers object to the way Section 17,284 paragraph c of some obscure law was insufficiently adhered to, human rights, sure little dealers can be picked up and prosecuted in just a few hundred police hours and given a slap on the wrist, but they will be back in hours, drug addicts don't just stop, drug slaves don't just stop dealing till their debt is paid off or their habit broken, or else...anyway the majority of drug addicts are not bothering you all buying their drugs off the lowest dealers on an A3 layby etc, they are having it delivered, to their big detached houses, think about that ... And even if it was all the parents faults and if we got them all on camera and saw in them, reason enough to believe, according to how they looked,that they were responsible for their teenagers behaviour in Sainsbury's, wouldn't we then need to get THEIR parents on camera to see if it was not in fact their fault and not.... wait for it.....not the teenagers in Sainsbury's themselves, or maybe, perhaps, they're just a large group of teenagers letting off a little steam after school, living in a boring old town that WE, US, SOCIETY, created for them!😁

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Penny Williamson (7th Feb 2022 - 13:33:42) So what is your answer to the problem er? Everyone is quick to blame everyone else but no one comes up with positive ideas as how to put this situation right.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Joe (8th Feb 2022 - 11:32:09) I would not advocate confronting drug dealers James. The solution I think is to teach your children how to deal with the harsh realities of life without chemical supports. It used to be possible! I do not think throwing skate parks and youth clubs at them is the answer.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - er (8th Feb 2022 - 11:54:01) Solutions are you kidding? Since when has your Liphook sage brought solutions?😁 Sorry but I think we all know deep down that Capitalism has taken us so far, there will be no more effective solutions offered. Maybe we should just settle for that and be grateful for the freedoms it gave us, the wealth and privilege to substitute our worries about surviving the next winter to worries about lost puppies and pet insurance and trees in South America and our language etc, compared to any previous generation we are all Kings and Queens, (or is that Queens and Kings, I'd like to offer my apologies and I will learn blah blah blah!). Further liberalisation won't help, (but we could and will spend many years arguing about that) but who wants political authoritarianism back, yes some, there will be friction Capitalism sees people as consumers, we consume, we pay, some of us get rich, some don't, some choose not to, we burn out, it seeks new consumers to consume, and so it continues to consume till someone shouts War and Freedom! and we all fight again and war consumes us, then the victors get rich and consume and we are grateful not to be at war. The End. I guess it's not so bad.

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - James (8th Feb 2022 - 12:27:55) I didn't suggest that Joe - I suggested telling kids nicking sweets to stop being morons

Re: Drug dealing in Liphook - Other James (8th Feb 2022 - 14:15:35) It's time we legalise cannabis It has a number of benefits and if done correctly it would destroy the amount of gangs illegally selling it. It has been known to relieve insomnia, anxiety and helps relieve many medical conditions such as epilepsy. I personally don't use drugs, however I don't have a problem with them, I have a problem with the people selling them and not making sure they are safe for consumption. Legalise it, put an age restriction on it, and tax it. Let's stop giving gangs money, the money earned from the tax can go to support vital charities or government organisations such as the fire service. health.harvard.edu/blog/medical-marijuana…

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