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Range Rover, School run. - Nick (25th Nov 2020 - 09:02:24) To the absolute **** womble who almost caused an accident on Tunbridge crescent at 8.35 this morning, park in a car park to drop off your kid and NOT at the exit of Tunbridge crescent on the left hand side infront of parked cars onto the Headley Road!! I was coming up from the Mead , parked cars on left hand side towards Headley road, nothing coming down into the crescent off of Headley Road so I maneuvered around parked cars to pull into the space at the top to turn right onto Headley Road. Just as I did so , a grey large range rover turned in off of the Headley Road and into the EXIT OF Tunbridge and PARKED UP to let the kid out !!! Leaving me nowhere to go on the right hand side of the road with cars waiting to turn left into Tunbridge. Unbelievable !! The one time i didn't have my dash cam on 🙄 you then reversed back into the junction to try and squeeze past me . Idiot !!!

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Mark (25th Nov 2020 - 14:18:10) Nick did you make a note of the number plate to report this dangerous maneuver? It won’t be the last time this happens I’m sure as the little darling will be needing to get to school another day. An accident waiting to happen,that could be avoided.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Melanie (25th Nov 2020 - 16:44:01) Try living on Victoria Way, total nightmare every morning trying to get out onto Longmoor road due to all the cars parked on the left, right up to the junction..... you also have to negotiate all the School children walking in front and behind you!!!! Hideous!!!

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Homer Doh (25th Nov 2020 - 18:58:07) Did a school next door cross you mind?

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Melanie (26th Nov 2020 - 11:35:12) My point was really the cars on the left not the school children..... just a tricky situation in the mornings!!

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Julie (27th Nov 2020 - 07:53:03) We were there at 8am yesterday (26th). There was no range rover, just a thumping great citroen right on the junction!!!!

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Knowledge (27th Nov 2020 - 08:28:17) I love the complete ignorance on here - what does it matter if the car blocking the road is a Range Rover or a "dirty great Citroen"? It could be a 2CV replica made out of feathers and driven by the farts of aphids yet still be blocking the road which, lets face it, is the issue here. Some people seem more annoyed about the cars people are driving than the possible accident being caused.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - James (27th Nov 2020 - 08:33:02) Why aren't you walking your kids to school? We are in a lockdown there's no excuse for the majority of people. Walk your kids to and from school, ease the traffic problem in Liphook, and also help your kid to be healthy by participating in a healthy life style. There is no excuse for laziness.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Ian (27th Nov 2020 - 12:19:44) James, much of the traffic is from families for the Infants and Junior schools who live a number of miles away! I think you are being a little judgmental and patronising. Most who live within walking distance do walk I suspect. Also, its probably safer during the pandemic that children are delivered in cars rather than congesting the already cramped pavements with even more potentially germ spreading kids and parents

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Al (27th Nov 2020 - 18:42:41) Get yourself a dash cam, you are allowed to show your footage to the police. I have 1 they are very useful against idiotic brainless drivers

Re: Range Rover, School run. - John (27th Nov 2020 - 20:48:21) I have to agree with James. I live reasonably close to the schools and there are plenty of children being driven to school by their parents who live near me, pre pandemic and still now. Yes, some do come from further afield but if you can walk to school within 10 - 15 minutes then you probably should. All of these parents I see then drive home again after dropping their children off so it isn't as though they are going on to work afterwards. We all need to do our bit for the environment and our children's health and well being.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Stevie Mac (28th Nov 2020 - 06:03:53) Ian - you claim that "most who live within walking distance do walk I suspect". Not so sure about that...if all those who are capable of walking and live within 15-20 mins walk of the school, then they should be using their feet and helping to reduce the traffic and pollution levels in our village. And by 15-20 mins...families on The Berg, Gunns Farm, all the estates off Haslemere Road, Griggs Green, Canada Way ...many, many parents from these areas use their cars to drive their kids to school.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Sarah (28th Nov 2020 - 09:17:23) People aren’t perfect. We’re all doing our best. Many of us drive our children to school because we then drive on to work. Many people in catchment for all the Liphook schools live a 30 minute walk away - fine for the children going there and back, but 2 hours worth of walking for busy parents who have to walk there and back, there and back and cannot do that every day. Some days people drive, other days people walk, sometimes people are lazy, sometimes super responsible and amazing and do everything ‘right’. My point is that on any given day there will be a combination of people doing the ‘right’ things, whether walking or driving responsibly, and people having a bad day and doing the ‘wrong’ thing, plus the idiots who always do the ‘wrong’ thing. It is never going to be perfect. This isn’t aimed at the original poster, who I sympathise with. It’s aimed at the ‘everyone should always walk to school’ commenters, who perhaps fail to grasp the real world and what other people have to do in a day.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - James (28th Nov 2020 - 22:07:08) Walking to school doesn't necessarily mean walking all the way there. If you live a 30 minute walk away and do not have the time, drive to Sainsburys park there, and walk from there, or any of the other car parks in Liphook.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Julie (29th Nov 2020 - 06:36:53) Knowledge. Agreed that regardless of the make of car, it parking on the junction is the issue. However, the point I was making was that it's not 1 numpty in 1 car, it's probably multiple numptys in multiple cars, and saying I'm ignorant was unnecessary

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Helen (29th Nov 2020 - 11:25:52) Unfortunately Julie , somone calling themselves " knowledge" would have a very high regard for themselves, and perhaps would not have called you ignorant had you posted as Julian, not Julie.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Sarah (29th Nov 2020 - 19:50:57) James, I understand your reasoning, but to be fair, someone from Conford or Passfield or deepest Bramshott would not drive to Sainsburys to park and walk their children. The only other parking place on our side of the village is the Catholic Church which has limited parking permits - otherwise it is the residential Tunbridge Crescent area, causing issues as described by the original poster. People can drive to school responsibly, it is possible and we are not all devils with unfit children. - but I do understand what you mean.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Knowledge (29th Nov 2020 - 21:00:21) @ Julie - you chose to describe the Citroen as "dirty great" so I think my point still stands. @ Helen - I was responding to both Julie and Nick. Does that make me sexist? You don't even know what sex I am. The fact you chose to respond in the way you did unfortunately says an awful lot about you and your prejudices.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Julie (29th Nov 2020 - 22:43:09) Knowledge. If you're going to quote me, at least quote me correctly!!!!!!

Re: Range Rover, School run. - john (30th Nov 2020 - 00:02:44) Loving the long standing fat assumptions that; A= Nicer car equals lesser a person B= Time traveling light speed tech exists that get kids to school for 9am and still get parents to work at 9am also. Whats actually going on here is a combination of road rage, morning stress and jealously. We all do the same thing in the morning!

Re: Range Rover, School run. - James (30th Nov 2020 - 00:08:33) Sarah, There is always the recreation ground car park, Radford Park car park and others. The only car parks are NOT just on Sainsbury's side! and while not every parent is letting their children to become overweight or obese the UK has the highest children obesity levels in Europe! That is saying something... Something needs to be done, and walking to school is a simple way to prevent obesity. I also don't think the responsibility should just be put on parents, I strongly believe every student should have atleast 1hr of PE lessons Mon-Fri; however that is coming off topic.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Nicky (30th Nov 2020 - 09:04:04) Stevie Mac we live at the back of the Berg and both my girls walk to Bohunt, in fact there are a lot that walk from this end of the village. For me it’s a good opportunity to get them out in the fresh air and away from those ******* screens!!!!😁

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Susan (30th Nov 2020 - 11:09:35) re John & ' we all do the same thing in the morning ',how far from the truth could you get in your generalisation. one of the main reasons I bought a property centrally was to enable my 2 to be able to walk to school. my shifts regularly start at 7.30 and if I arrived at or after 9 would quickly be looking for ano job ! I am not alone in this situation,it is not unique but called life,and we are all different with differing needs. sweeping statements are unhelpful on this site,narrow minded and out of date. who cares what the vehicle was,its the dangerous manoeuvre thats in question here. Merry Xmas !

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Helen (30th Nov 2020 - 14:31:31) HI " Knowledge" - yes we all make assumptions a lot of females these days call themselves "Nick:. I am talking from my direct experience on this website not from prejudice.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Knowledge (30th Nov 2020 - 16:32:49) Hi Helen However you try and spin this, you're the one making massive assumptions in this thread. Even if they are based on your experiences on this website, you're still showing your prejudice. I was only making the very simple point that the bad driving, on which this thread was started, does not relate to the vehicle being driven but is just plain bad driving. The fact that you've managed to infer sexism in any way based on the name I've used here is, frankly, utterly bonkers.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Richard (30th Nov 2020 - 20:31:57) Knowledge Perhaps the reason the OP made reference to the make of car might be that the driver of said car might read this here and think 'Oh, that could have been me' and perhaps will be cajoled into not doing it again. By naming the make of car limits the amount of people that it could be. Better than putting 'There was a car (I'm not saying the make even though doing so might jog the memory of the driver, thereby perhaps improving their driving) blocking the end of Tunbridge Crescent (but I'm not saying the time, thereby making it harder for the driver to have their memory pricked) For someone calling themselves Knowledge you're displaying a rather large lack of it.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Sarah (30th Nov 2020 - 22:00:04) James, so I should drive in from the Conford/Passfield direction, queue in traffic to go to the rec playground on another side of the village to me, walk to school, then walk back and get to work on time. How does that make sense? It’s bonkers, just to make you happy. I am happy driving to school with plenty of time to allow me not to be a lunatic, safely dropping my children and then getting to work on time. Not sure why that is wrong, but it’s saner than battling traffic to park on the opposite side of Liphook first! There is nothing wrong with sensible driving.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - D (1st Dec 2020 - 07:20:09) James's suggestions of where to park are not public car parks, they are for the use of persons using those particular facilities.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - James (1st Dec 2020 - 08:07:32) D The recreation ground car park is public, radford park car park is public, Sainsbury's do not enforce there car parking rules however there is a car park next to it! Midhurst Road Car Park, which is public! There are no signs at either the rec or radford that car parking is only permitted for use of them facilities. I believe this is the same for Sainsburys too, just that you have to leave within 2 hours. Sarah, those are recommendations on where to park, you can park at Hunters Chase or Tunbridge Crescent, if that's what you want to do. The more people walking the better, my mum use to walk me to school when I was juniors and she still got to work on time! Laziness has no excuse.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - Ian (1st Dec 2020 - 11:20:34) James is on a wind up again, just ignore him. Traffic is part and parcel of having big schools in the village that have a large catchment, probably been here longer than most of the residents here, keep calm, park considerably and ignore the trolls!

Re: Range Rover, School run. - James (1st Dec 2020 - 17:04:23) Ian, How am I being a troll? If more people walk to the school the less cars on the road in the square and other main roads into and out off Liphook! It's basic maths. You don't have to agree with me. Everything I have said is factual, as with all my comments on this site.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - D (1st Dec 2020 - 17:08:07) There you go, Sarah. You've been called "lazy" by a seventeen year old schoolboy. Personally I don't think James exists, someone has made him up based on Harry Enfield's "Tory Boy".

Re: Range Rover, School run. - James (1st Dec 2020 - 18:39:58) D, I am not sure how me being a "seventeen year old schoolboy" has got to do with anything! I am also far from a tory! But politics has got nothing to do with this thread. Keep trying though D

Re: Range Rover, School run. - D (1st Dec 2020 - 23:11:01) It's a bit before your time, James. "Tory Boy" was a pompous; arrogant; opinionated self-righteous fictitious character created by comedian Harry Enfield.

Re: Range Rover, School run. - James (2nd Dec 2020 - 08:28:50) D, The adjectives you used to describe Tory Boy unfortunately do not correspond with me. I am not arrogant, I do not act like I am better than other people. I would imagine D you are the type of person to ignore other people's opinions in person just like you do on this thread. I would also say that I am not self-righteous as I do not meet the definition of it. I would say D you have described yourself. You are ignorant and arrogant and are taking this thread away from its topic. D, please go back to the time where you decided not to reply to my threads because I am a "child".

Re: Range Rover, School run. - lac (4th Dec 2020 - 10:19:08) Unfortunately the debate on this topic has gone into the usual downward spiral of insult and daft politicking. My solution to the school run problem is simple. Drop the kids off 100 yards away and make them walk. Good for road safety and the children actually get some exercise. Simples. A more expensive alternative is to encourage a return to what used to be normal - walking/cycling to school. Cycling would require some investment in creating safe cycle paths (NOT cordoned bits of road) and in safe places to store bikes away from our thieving friends. I used to run a mile to Primary School and cycle 4 miles to secondary school. Probably shows my age but isn't it amazing how little we expect of children now. I also own up to my children being driven to Bohunt nearly all the time, in spite of living a mile away! Do as I say, not as I do!

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