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Hysterical Children
- KW (9th Apr 2020 - 17:21:07)

I appreciate that we are all isolated at home and staying safe, but I would really also appreciate it if you could stop your hysterically screaming child calm themselves and because their sibling has a toy they want. I know it's an uncomfortable time for everyone but I really do not enjoy having to endure 10 minutes of your child screaming and hysterically crying because you don't want to have to deal with their behaviour and teach them about respect.

Re: Hysterical Children
- Sad old man (9th Apr 2020 - 17:45:24)

Going to be a long old summer for you pal

Re: Hysterical Children
- B (9th Apr 2020 - 18:13:10)

Hi,

There are 1440 minutes in the day. I understand that nerves are getting frayed about now, it lasted just 10 minutes.

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- Ian (9th Apr 2020 - 19:37:34)

KW - hysterical reaction. There’s a lot of talk about the effect of this virus and lockdown but surprisingly little on the impact on the mental well being of the nations children. Their world has literally been turned upside down, they do not have adult minds to Fully understand what is going on, they are unable to see their family and friends, many are desperately missing their grandparents and are struggling with the lack of social interaction that is so critical for their well being. In addition and despite the best online efforts of their teachers their education is suffering, we are to a degree sacrificing some of their childhood to deal with this pandemic. Shame you had a tough ten minutes!

Re: Hysterical Children
- Gina (9th Apr 2020 - 20:26:48)

You saddo KW! Are you for real?! I guess you were never young. I really feel for parents of little ones at the moment.

Far greater things to worry about

Re: Hysterical Children
- Claire (9th Apr 2020 - 20:34:15)

This is a really hard and confusing time for children, they hear little snippets of conversations regarding death, they don’t have their usual support systems of friends, school, grandparents and other extended families.
I have days where I feel like having a good cry and a yell, no wonder kids do!

Re: Hysterical Children
- Michael Farrant (9th Apr 2020 - 20:42:28)

Sometimes children scream and are hysterical. We've all been there once.

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- D (10th Apr 2020 - 08:40:53)

What an excellent opportunity to teach children in a real life situation the value of social responsibility. Having to give a few things up for a short time for the benefit of everyone. This experience will place them in good stead for the future. Unfortunate as it is, how do we think children in World War Two managed when they woke to find one of their friends had been killed in an air raid overnight? They managed because they had to.

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- JC (10th Apr 2020 - 09:24:15)

D is 100% right. I don't ever recall a child crying and getting hysterically upset during World War II. They had the dignity and decorum to bottle up their emotions around fear and death like a true patriot.

Not that obviously, I would have been old enough to remember WWII but I've seen a few movies set then so I am fairly confident of my knowledge of realities of Britain at War

Re: Hysterical Children
- Dave (10th Apr 2020 - 09:46:12)

D- and if they don’t learn we can give them a damn good thrashing with the cane. They need to learn that tears are for wimps and that sometimes you need to just take it on the chin and be prepared to die for your country, just like in the good old days of World War Two! God forbid that the world becomes a more tolerant and compassionate place!

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- Gala (10th Apr 2020 - 12:12:34)

How about having hysterically shrieking 4 kids for 2-3 hours every day(4-5 days). They were bouncing on trampoline and playing football simultaneously. The parents didn't seem to notice. Once the ball happened to land in our garden and one of the boys requested to get it back with a very demanding tone. No apologies so far. No respect, no considering our serous age. The trampoline,huge one, is located only roughly half a meter from our fence. The noise was unbearable. Two kids were his( owner of the house about 60 years of age) and two others were invited from somewhere.During this current lockdown it's absolutely inappropriate to have such gatherings. We think that special fines should be undertaken against such people, as we feel very vulnerable and unprotected.

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- E (10th Apr 2020 - 12:28:54)

Yes D & JC spot on the war time spirit should kick in.

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- GV (10th Apr 2020 - 13:51:10)

Yes, it's pretty disturbing, we can't even use our own garden, have to keep in with a splitting headache. Who do we have to complain? Where do have to go? Police? Who is dealing with this sort of a problem? If you know, please give a hint. Many thanks.

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- D (10th Apr 2020 - 17:03:27)

Alright then, Dave? I'm sorry if you don't think it a good thing to teach children responsibility. Maybe it's because we are such a tolerant compassionate country that we now have so many children with alleged behaviour problems. I agree with you, in some circumstances children should be thrashed (your choice of words.)

Re: Hysterical Children
- er (10th Apr 2020 - 17:23:47)

Getting back to the OPs problem, it is not made clear, but if one of the children had the others toy, this potentially raises the question of larceny, and I'd imagine a 999 call would have been appropriate (theft in progress), alternatively if the police aren't interested I would imagine the parents could be brought to the square and tried before the village elders, whence they might be dunked in the river if found in remiss, this would have the added advantage of discovering whether or not they be witches.

Let's keep holding it together guys, less than 2 weeks in!

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- Andy (10th Apr 2020 - 18:23:50)

Never mind. At least there’s not a killer virus dominating the globe. That would be much worse than a screaming child!

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- D (10th Apr 2020 - 18:56:27)

I think a lot of the older generations do not appreciate the sacrifices the rest of society are making to protect their vulnerability. The under 50’s generally are sacrificing their financial wellbeing, emotional wellbeing to mostly stay indoors and put their lives on hold to ensure this virus (to which generally the over 79’s are most vulnerable) is beaten. So with respect, stuff your old fashioned values and prejudices and be grateful that our modern society is making these sacrifices to protect you!

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- D (10th Apr 2020 - 20:32:06)

D, I am under 50. Reading your rude post I'm so glad I have my "old fashioned attitudes". Thankyou.

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- Parent (10th Apr 2020 - 20:41:28)

Yeah well KW one of the loads people who panic buyed sitting at home now with 60 bags bog roll. Now has to moan about children enjoying/fighting outside. All you people on here moaning about this issue realise we parents have to deal with this to keep you safe, and you probably never had to deal with this type situation. So STFU and enjoy the weather and keep safe

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- Adrian (10th Apr 2020 - 20:49:16)

D, mate have you read what you just written. Hilarious!
Just remember without your so called older generation. Your sad little life in Liphook would not exist :)

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- JOE (10th Apr 2020 - 21:24:48)

I am astonished at some of the posts on this thread. Have you not seen all the younger people on the news who have the virus and die? Also younger people can easily be carriers of the disease? Having to endure a few weeks of lockdown is nothing compared to getting really sick and dying from the disease whatever age you are.

Re: Hysterical Children
- D (10th Apr 2020 - 22:12:56)

Adrian, the "D" whining about the older generation is a woman. Please don't mix her up with me. I agree with you by the way.

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- JC (11th Apr 2020 - 10:45:47)

Actually JOE, the chance of death and serious infection is significantly lower in the age groups between 0 -30 and so isolation is a sacrifice they're making for other others.

If the death rate from COVID-19 were the same for all age groups, and was the 0.05 to 0.1% the 0-30s experience then this lockdown would have been significantly less likely and would have been significantly shorter.

That is not to say they shouldn't adhere to the lockdown, but yes, it is a sacrifice they are making for older people, when we think about it on a societal scale.

You can of course make the argument that "oh well they have grandparents etc etc" but that's still a sacrifice made largely for the benefit of someone else.

On top of this. It's important to bare in mind, many youth mental health and wellbeing services are run through the very systems we have suspended, schools, youth centres etc.

So the question, I now pose is, how many young lives are we sacrificing through suicide of those at risk?

The bottom line is this is a balancing act and it's important to keep in perspective that everyone is struggling in ways far beyond what any of us can comprehend. Kids and adults of all ages and that if them crying for an minute, an hour or five hours is the worst that happens, then damn, I'd be bloody happy with that

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- D (11th Apr 2020 - 12:57:46)

A 35 year old teacher died of it yesterday, so this business about one age group making sacrifices for another holds no water there. The bottom line is people don't like being told what to do.

Re: Hysterical Children
- Ron (11th Apr 2020 - 13:39:09)

This site is becoming very confusing with many posting with the same names. Just a thought if you no you are posting with the same name perhaps you could add something to identify your self.Just saying.

Re: Hysterical Children
- JC (11th Apr 2020 - 13:58:04)

D, yes "A" 35 year school teacher, not 1000 35 year old school teachers. A 35 year old died last year of flu, and a 35 year old died of cancer, anyone and every can die at any point in their life and often they can die of something that, with the right measures would have otherwise been preventable.

We don't all stop driving just because an 18 year old got killed in a car crash. The reason for this lockdown is not the death of a 35 year old.

It's the death of thousands of over 60s. No one here can claim the high road and that we're all doing this for the greater good, we're doing this because we're at risk, and we're afraid of dying and we have the ability to control government decisions because we're the age group most likely to vote Conservative.

The calculus has become such that it's worth sacrificing a few months of liberty for everyone to preserve the lives of a vast quantity of us over 60s. To pretend that we're doing this for the couple of hundred 30 something's who will also die is a lie we tell ourselves to be able to believe that actually we're not asking anything of them, instead we're doing them a favour by restricting their freedom.

Re: Hysterical Children
- D (11th Apr 2020 - 17:37:45)

JC, I'm sorry you don't appear to give a toss about the 35 year old teacher who died yesterday. I'm sure her family, friends and students will miss her terribly.

Re: Hysterical Children
- er (11th Apr 2020 - 17:43:48)

JC, I believe we would do this for any age group or demographic.

Remember also that the Spanish flu mutated and in it's second phase wiped out up to 100 million otherwise healthy young adults, at a time when the global population was around a fifth of today, so that would equate to half a billion healthy young adults today..

I think that's the real reason the whole world is trying desperately to contain it now and kill it off before it has a chance to take hold.

Re: Hysterical Children
- Rachel (11th Apr 2020 - 18:25:42)

What about all those hysterical kids the original poster mentioned? Have they been rounded up yet or still on the loose? Are those the same hysterical screaming ones with a barking dog or dogs that we all keep hearing near Radford Bridge?

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