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2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Eric Benson (19th Jan 2020 - 16:28:36) What plans does Liphook have to acknowledge the change in status for the United Kingdom on Friday at 11.00 pm? Regards Eric

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - AT LAST (19th Jan 2020 - 17:13:40) Throw a Bl**** Great Party! Let’s hope we can free ourselves completely.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Ian (19th Jan 2020 - 17:23:46) What would you suggest?

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - MJR (19th Jan 2020 - 17:29:55) Fly the union flag at half mast!

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - paul (19th Jan 2020 - 17:36:46) Hi, Maybe just wait for another 6 or 7 years then we can have another vote to rejoin the E.U. .

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Grant (19th Jan 2020 - 18:27:02) Yawn.......!!!!!!

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Pete (20th Jan 2020 - 09:59:11) Might I suggest staying in preferably in a room on your own to show solidarity with the isolationist country we wish to become.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Rm (20th Jan 2020 - 15:28:06) Here we go again the remainers slagging off the people that have a different opinion to them. Just like a lot of kids in the play ground when they lose a game. A DEMOCRATIC VOTE and you lost get over it. Bit like the LABOUR PARTY now still don’t know why they lost. I agree with grant and at last yawn and a big party.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - M (20th Jan 2020 - 16:05:01) "Might I suggest staying in preferably in a room on your own to show solidarity with the isolationist country we wish to become." As usual the remainers get it all wrong and can't bring themselves to accept what is happening and how we all need to work together. How can wishing to actually open ourselves up to trading with the whole world on our own terms, and not just with the EU, be seen as "isolationist"? It's happening so make the best if it, whether it turns out to be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Jack (20th Jan 2020 - 16:56:40) Rm, I didn't read anyone slagging-off those who wished to leave, as you so eloquently put it. In fact, the only one doing any slagging off was you. I'm sure leavers would like a big party with jelly and ice cream, just like in the old days. I would counsel against it. Britain is still as divided as it ever was. At the election in December. 53% of British voters opted for parties that backed a confirmatory referendum, a little more that the % who voted for Brexit at the referendum. While the 2016 result was apparently the 'will of the people' and democracy in action, our twisted FPTP voting system delivers a massive majority of MPs for Brexit. This is why Johnson wanted an election, rather than a Peoples Vote - he knew he would lose a referendum. Leavers like him like to have their party cake and eat it. I don't think there were street parties in 1975 after the first referendum - perhaps Harold Wilson understood the need to respect the views of those who disagreed. Eric, East Hampshire voted for remain, ergo, the majority of us here didn't want it. I'm not sure celebrating something most people now consider to be foolish would be appropriate. We will have to get on with it now and accept our diminished influence in the world, but some of us will still be wistful for the future Britain could have had.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Pete (20th Jan 2020 - 17:03:03) M- We already trade with the rest of the world with the backing of the European trading block giving us more leverage than we could ever hope to have as the nation we are. Whether you like it or not a major driving force behind the whole Brexit thing is a deep rooted fear and distrust of anything foreign whipped up by a overwhelmingly right wing press. This is the isolationism I am referring to.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - john (20th Jan 2020 - 17:23:25) Rm Labour democratically lost the election, it does not therefore follow that Labour just fold their arms and say nothing in parliament for the next four years. The issue wont go away, those that want to speak and say thing you don't agree with wont be shut up on your say so, and there will be no getting on with it for many people, it will still be talked about in decades and every thing that goes wrong from now till eternity will be blamed on this stupidity. So shout all you want, we will sit back and warm our hands on the flames of the burning mess this has caused.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Penny Williamson (20th Jan 2020 - 17:23:36) I couldn’t agree more with M and Rm. The Remainers just can’t get it. They couldn’t after the Referendum and they couldn’t after the General Election. I agree that there are other factors in a General Election, but the fact is the huge swing to the Tories was mostly about Brexit. People wanted to respect the Referendum and move on. For the last three and half years the Remainers have been banging on about another Referendum while the “silent majority” who wanted to respect the result of the Referendum we had and move on, for the most part, remained silent. In the light of the election result it would seem that even if there had been another Referendum the Remainers would still have lost, but Referendums cannot be called until the perceived “right” answer is reached. More damage has been done to the UK by the Remain faction. Right from the outset the majority of MP’s wanted to remain but the majority of people voted to leave. Consequently a significant number of these MPs, in spite of saying they would respect the result of the Referendum, have worked consistently against leaving. This led to the Remainers in the public domain to keep quoting their “mantra” that people didn’t know what they were voting for”. How very offensive and patronising. Most people did know what they were voting for and I have spoken to many Remainers who said the result of the Referendum should be respected. Some even said that if there was a second Referendum they would now vote to leave. The end result is that the UK has been paralysed for three and half years. So on 31 January, 2020 let’s celebrate in any way we can. Democracy has reigned supreme.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - John (20th Jan 2020 - 21:27:49) Only this week business leaders were warning of job losses and food prices going up dramatically by the end of this year due to us leaving the EU. I am pleased the leavers have such deep pockets to assimilate the price increases. I am on a limited retirement income.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Grant (20th Jan 2020 - 22:49:00) Perhaps Harry & Meg's can put in a good word. And...... Sleep zzzzzzzzzxxxxx

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Pete (21st Jan 2020 - 07:50:24) Penny- Have you ever wondered why the majority of MP's wanted to stay in the EU. Although you are undoubtedly well educated and thoroughly researched your viewpoint before making such a momentous decision, many in this country are not and did not preferring to take what they read in the right wing press as gospel. This is why we have MP's to make these complex decisions in the first place. I hardly think its the remainers fault that things have not progressed,The Conservative government had 2 years to come up with a plan and when they did it wasn't good enough for leavers or remainers. Then Bizarrely our current leader went on to ratify a deal that was worse than the previous one he voted against. In these lazy populist times it maters not who is right or wrong it is those who can lie loud enough and long enough who tend to prevail. Just as a foot note could it be possible that the "silent majority" were so silent as they didn't have a clue what they were on about.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - liz (21st Jan 2020 - 09:37:52) Penny The Remainers don't get it? The Referendum outcome did not prove that the Brexiteers voted for what was best for the future of our country. That has yet to be seen.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Jen (21st Jan 2020 - 09:42:38) I agree with Pete, 100%. I don't think that Brexit is something to celebrate at all! Quite the opposite, in fact. I wonder what it is that all the people who want to celebrate are actually celebrating? What is it that they think they will gain? I'm at a loss to see anything beneficial for individuals.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Simon Coyte (21st Jan 2020 - 11:55:18) Well I am glad that all the uncertainty and parliamentary bickering is almost over but I am sad we are leaving the EU. Having spent the last 10 years delivering goods right across the EU from Portugal to Finland, it was so easy as we had no border checks within the EU though French or German custom patrols on the Autoroutes, could be a pain if they get bored on a quiet day! As to the future, Europe will still be there and from May I will only be visiting as a tourist. PS I might be in France at 23.00 hours GMT I hope they let me back in at Dover!!

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Penny Williamson (21st Jan 2020 - 13:48:30) Pete, not unsurprisingly I do not agree with the content of your post at all, but I am not going to take it apart piece by piece as these arguments have appeared in many posts on many Threads and it gets us nowhere. All I will say to the Remainers, stop promoting “project fear”. We haven’t actually left yet and after 31 January there will be many negotiations regarding the terms so we shall just have to wait and see. I feel as a Country we have a great future – however I accept that I could be wrong – no one knows. The withdrawal will happen on 31 January – nothing we can do about it now - so let’s come together as a Country and a Government and get the best trade deals we can with Europe and the rest of the world. If this had happened three and a half years ago with a cross party agreement and a Country supporting the result of the democratic Referendum, who knows we might have everything sorted by now.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Rm (21st Jan 2020 - 14:31:09) Just seen in National press IMF have stated our economy will grow faster than Europe over the next two years. This was announced at the Meeting in Switzerland. Also more than ONE THOUSAND financial firms and BANKING asset managers plan to open offices here. These figures clearly show UK as EUROPE’ S PREMIER FINANCIAL HUB. All us leavers did know what we were voting for and we did it again at the ELECTION and will do it again if we have to. Why do you think labour voters turned CONSERVATIVES because they could see the mess the EU is in and the only way is out.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Diane (21st Jan 2020 - 15:07:39) You lost get over it is a typical leavers comment. The remainers are allowed to have a point of view. They are allowed to have different thoughts from other people. How do the leavers know for certain they are right. Do they have crystal balls or just the daily mail?

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Pete (21st Jan 2020 - 15:22:51) RM- Funny how when the IMF forecasts were gloomy it was project fear and you cant trust experts.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Pete (21st Jan 2020 - 15:39:15) Just wondering Penny, if you were to pick my post apart which bit would it be. That not all the population is educated to the same standard. That this country's press is predominantly right wing. That MP's are elected to make informed decisions for the country as there are many things the general populous are not informed enough to be able to make a decision on and will not understand. That the main reason for the last 3 years of impasse is that Mrs May lost her majority (albeit slight and with help) in an election that she had no need to call. That our current leader voted against the deal put forward by Theresa May twice then bought it back to the table with no meaningful changes. That barefaced lying seems to be the norm in modern politics.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Rm (21st Jan 2020 - 15:45:08) Yes Diane and a typical saying from remainers is all leavers are idiots.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Jacob (21st Jan 2020 - 17:46:56) RM, I have just checked what you had to say about growth, and have only found it in the Sun and the Daily Mail the day before, was it reported in any other papers? I can see the Independent the day before said it would grow on a orderly exit. So I am not going to count my chickens just yet.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Rm (21st Jan 2020 - 21:35:22) Yes Jacob saw it couple of papers very optimistic we can do it.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - John (22nd Jan 2020 - 19:51:38) LOL the IMF statement only used the word “optimistic” it did not say that things stated here, those things are an “interpretation” by the tabloids. If you can’t even state or locate facts and your limited to the daily mail for your version of truth they your are ruined

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Rölli (23rd Jan 2020 - 12:32:23) @ John, we're all ruined unless we just move on from this boring, tedious topic. Michael Heseltine summed it up, its going to happen, that fight must stop. The whole nation needs to accept this (I do and I was an ardent remainer) and get behind the government to get the best deal possible. we need to stop the winner/loser, bitching/gloating cycle and reunite.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Rm (23rd Jan 2020 - 13:31:03) Well said Rolli as I said optimistic if we all pull together we can achieve it.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Daft (23rd Jan 2020 - 13:50:23) In or out, we'll still be slaves, LOL!

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - John (23rd Jan 2020 - 17:42:45) Rölli. We dont need to move on, we dont need to accept it and nothing you or anyone else can say will change it, if anything we need to get back into the EU ASAP. This wont be going away for anyones lifetime. The country is divided and its not going to repair itself on the 30th. I know many a person that once they have found out that friends or family voted the other way to them then that friendship has been permanently damaged. I knew a few idiots whom voted leave and have stayed well clear of them since. Its a mess, the country is doomed and if your sensible you should get out of it as its driven by the daily mail and a bunch of clowns lining there own pockets

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Rölli (24th Jan 2020 - 09:29:08) @ John, really worrying about you, you are obviously in a bad place. Really must move on mate for your own emotional well being. It is going to happen!

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - M (24th Jan 2020 - 16:30:45) John. Dear oh dear from your last post you sound a man with issues. Perhaps take your own advice, pack your bags and leave ASAP,. I thank my lucky stars that you're not a friend of mine and that you can't appear to live side by side with your own friends and neighbours. Good luck.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Regrexit (25th Jan 2020 - 12:23:03) We all like a good party. No wish to rain on anyone's parade, but likelihood is that it will (England January...). If I do go partying out to celebrate an unfortunate but unavoidable event, I wouldn't like MY face to be recorded on film for future viewing... Time will judge!

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - At last (31st Jan 2020 - 12:29:07) On count down YIPPEE .We can now call ourselves British again not EUROPEAN’S with out being called racist.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Peikki (31st Jan 2020 - 14:18:59) How about being magnanimous in victory rather than triumphalism? Brexit has happened, many of us that didn't want it have accepted it and are looking forwards but the Country will need to come back together to be a success. Continuation of the sort of rhetoric coming out of both sides over the last few years absolutely will corrupt the future of this country

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Amy (31st Jan 2020 - 14:20:56) At last - are you aware that we’re only leaving the European Union and not Europe itself? Therefore you will still be European I’m afraid. I can’t begin to wonder why people think that Brexiters are ill informed...

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Jack (31st Jan 2020 - 14:35:48) I've never been labelled racist because I identified as British. I suspect that you haven't either, At Last. We are leaving because of misinformation and vested interests. Nothing to celebrate tonight.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Mr Mason (31st Jan 2020 - 14:54:56) Wow John, You and your friends sound like people who has a lot of issues going on. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion providing it is done in the correct manor but to suggest friendships have been permanently damaged as a result of this....wow. If I was you John I'd stay off social media, the internet, TV and radio for a while till you've calmed down. To much exposure to this is obviously playing havoc with your social circle. You suggest the UK will be stronger in the EU, which promotes equality across Europe, however you seem to have an attitude in line with dictatorships......IT'S YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS WAY OR THE HIGH WAY

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Pete (31st Jan 2020 - 15:01:08) Really? Did that actually happen, did somebody actually call you out as a racist for calling yourself British. I doubt it very much. Do the French not call themselves French, the Germans German and still have a European identity. If you really do think you are being labeled a racist for describing yourself as British then you must move in some strange circles. More likely its just more peddling of hearsay's, myths and downright lies.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - B (31st Jan 2020 - 16:28:56) Nobody has mentioned the £350 million that the NHS will be receiving every week as promised by the leave campaign during the referendum

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Regrexit (31st Jan 2020 - 18:34:57) Pointless cry over spilt milk. We've lost and nothing we could do about the 2016 unfortunate referendum. Tonight is the countdown. The countdown for the next referendum when the British public will demand to become members of the EU. Maybe in 15 years. Let's celebrate that!

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - pete (31st Jan 2020 - 21:41:26) Nothng actually occurs tonight at 11, sure we are out but the next few years sees the dismantaling of our benefits of being freinds with our neighbours and then the slip into being as important as belgium internationally. Now the cat is out of the bag the EU are going to ride us like a donkey, its gone from we want you, to F*** you and they will hold us to the sword of the collective EU that withiout is still many time larger than us and smash us into yesteryear. its going to be years and years of pain from here on in, as they strip us from everything. They will give us our fishing and all the daily mail readers will jump in success but london wont be the service centre for europe anymore and 70% of the economy will walk into europe. Thanks for the death warrant

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - Eric Benson (1st Feb 2020 - 00:10:21) It's done so let's get on with life. Time to close this thread.

Re: 2300 hours 31st January 2020 - pete (1st Feb 2020 - 00:47:57) its NOT done, its far form done, the last 4 years was moving from stage 0 to stage 1. Many more stages are ahead, many of us wont live through it. STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO GET ON WITH IT !!!

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