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Access road to Berg estate
- Jayne (6th Nov 2018 †20:53:36)

Since when was it acceptable to make the access road into this estate an unofficial car park? Never has been before in the 20+ years I've lived here.

Tonight it's maxed out at 7 cars parked in a lovely long line along the entire length of the access road, forcing vehicles entering and exiting the estate to run the gauntlet and hope there's nothing coming the other way. It's impossible to see now when turning left off Midhurst road into the estate.

Of course, it's perfectly legal to park here, there's no yellow lines and they all presumably pay road tax... blah blah blah. But it's incredibly dangerous and pretty selfish to impede access to those of us who live here, oh and don't forget, emergency vehicles too. It's called an access road for a reason.

Just a matter of time before a refuse lorry or similar damages one of them. Here's hoping.

Re: Access road to Berg estate
- Mandi (6th Nov 2018 †22:52:38)

You think that's bad? Try living in newtown road then.

Re: Access road to Berg estate
- Jen (7th Nov 2018 †01:23:12)

They should not be parked within 10 metres of the junction. If they are then they are violating Rule 243 of the Highway Code.

Perhaps the residents could all write to the council and request double yellow lines are installed along the first 10 metres of the road, from the junction? It's been done on other roads, where inconsiderate parking was a problem: The Avenue and Tower Road spring to mind.

Re: Access road to Berg estate
- S (7th Nov 2018 †07:28:31)

Same as the entrance to the Maltings in the evening, if you turn left into the estate it's impossible to see another car coming unless it's dark and you can see headlights.

Occasionally they are parked so far along that the whole left hand side is full and cars are almost hanging out into the Haslemere Road. I believe due to the limited parking in Manor Fields some of the residents have no other option but to park there but it's an accident waiting to happen.

Re: Access road to Berg estate
- Emily (7th Nov 2018 †07:49:09)

Another example is the entrance to Victoria Way.......

Re: Access road to Berg estate
- Ian (7th Nov 2018 †08:05:45)

This is probably a symptom of the reduced parking currently available at the train station due to site/ plant equipment. The car park is already at capacity from morning commuters. It has been the case in the last couple of years.

That said, if the parking is a safe distance from a junction then while you might not like it, there are no grounds for penalty or removal.

The use of on street parking close to the station will get worse for years to come. Liphook station has a large catchment including new homes in Bordon / Whitehill and other villages where driving is the only option. Since Haslemere parking is full (despite the new car park) and on street options too distant, Liphook will become an option for new passengers who might otherwise use that station.

Without a joined up transport and new home development plan to ensure car use is not the only option and / or the train companies provide suitable parking, then cars will clog up the roads around the station. Parking restrictions will simply displace the problem to other locations. Great for the NIMBY.

Lobby the elected persons who claim to own the strategies and policies, don't demonise those simply trying to get to work to pay their bills with few or no options but to park on the streets.


Re: Access road to Berg estate
- Helen (7th Nov 2018 †08:22:25)

Cars are always parked within 10 metres of the Tower Rd junction with the Headley Road? I Can also think of other places nearer to the station which are worse

Re: Access road to Berg estate
- Adrian (7th Nov 2018 †08:45:49)

If they are parking on one side of the road Access is still possible.
This parking is perfectly legal and will continue to happen on all roads and estates near the station. They only solution for you is to sell up and move away from the station.
Rest assured with all the building work going on in the area, mainly Bordon over 4,000 houses this will only get worse.

Re: Access road to Berg estate
- Ellen (7th Nov 2018 †22:04:59)

I have written to the powers that be some months back over this issue and can confirm that Chiltley Way has been identified as a road that could do with yellow lines. Donít hold your breath though as it could take some time to be actioned if at all.

Re: Access road to Berg estate
- Jayne (8th Nov 2018 †11:27:56)

Ian - a number of these cars do not belong to commuters. They are left regularly overnight by persons living in the proximity of the estate but who presumably don't have any parking area of their own and so have adopted the access road as their personal car park.

Adrian - selling up and moving away from the station is not a sensible suggestion given we moved to the estate over 20 years ago precisely because it was walking distance to the station! Yes we're commuters too.

Thanks Ellen for the information. As you probably know, cars are often left parked for the day within 10 metres of the junction so yellow lines at the entrance would definitely improve safety.

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