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Giant fox - Andrew (26th Nov 2016 - 08:04:26) Last night about 8.30 I was walking in bramshott and I saw a very large Fox ... well that is what it looked like and made a noise like one ..it was not a dog or anything else I can think of..anyone else seen it...

Re: Giant fox - Helen (26th Nov 2016 - 09:13:21) You may have encountered the fabled and elusive Big Cat of Bramshott!

Re: Giant fox - andrew (26th Nov 2016 - 09:26:37) No that was black but it was about the same size..

Re: Giant fox - A. Ryan (26th Nov 2016 - 10:21:03) Don't say where as you will have the trigger happy lot searching him out.

Re: Giant fox - Diane (27th Nov 2016 - 16:31:23) Yes there is a couple of large fox's around in beautifull condition . Hunters Shooters leave them alone. They have as much right to live as you do.

Re: Giant fox - Rachel (27th Nov 2016 - 20:52:43) One day last week, I was out walking late in the evening, around 11.30'ish. I was just approaching the end of Tower road where it meets London road, when a large, extremely beautiful fox, casually crossed, a few yards ahead of me. I felt honoured to have witnessed this magnificent fox's night time adventure, well a tiny part of it anyway :-)

Re: Giant fox - Citizen (28th Nov 2016 - 09:27:26) I too have seen the Fox. Wonderful, beautiful creatures. I have first hand experience of my cat & wild foxes spending time harmoniously together in my garden, not at all bothered by each other's company & totally aware that they are not natural enemies (I couldn't do that with a dog!) Foxes get a bad rap which is totally undeserved and I will always stand up for there rights. Remember: How we treat animals, especially persecuted ones, is a sign of how humane and evolved our society is. It is never acceptable to hunt or injure any animals, don't stand for it. If you ever see or here of it then stand up and say something/do something. Make a difference, they need you. All it takes for evil to prevail in this world is for good people to do nothing....

Re: Giant fox - Richard (28th Nov 2016 - 10:02:36) I believe this is the quotation you have in mind: "For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing" Simon Wiesenthal

Re: Giant fox - tony (28th Nov 2016 - 10:31:02) Yes, but what Simon Wiesenthal couldn't do is define evil. It calls to mind another saying, 'one man's meat is another man's poison' (Roman poet Lucretius). And don't forget that if the foxes are getting bigger it means they must be eating more! Every population has to be controlled although it needs to be done as humanely as reasonably possible. I mean if you had rats in your house, wouldn't you put rat poison down? Or cockroaches... ok don't even go there.

Re: Giant fox - tony (28th Nov 2016 - 11:06:37) PS I should just clarify (before anyone else points out) that having just realised who Simon Wiesenthal was, and therefore the context in which that quote was made, my reply to Richard might seem a bit insensitive. But it was not intended, my mistake, so I apologise.

Re: Giant fox - Citizen (28th Nov 2016 - 12:20:20) Yes Richard, I was trying to present the wisdom for the everyman (and woman!). Also, Tony, the Fox population does not need to be controlled, it is not a problem, and it is not in my house, although I would welcome it! And there are humane ways of doing everything, including dealing with rats & cockroaches. It just takes a different approach than 'kill everything I don't like'.

Re: Giant fox - liz (28th Nov 2016 - 13:59:59) Rats and cockroaches can infest your house causing practical issues for even the most animal loving person.. A fox could I suppose - would love to hear about that! Meanwhile no doubt they are helping to keep they rabbit population down.

Re: Giant fox - Richard (28th Nov 2016 - 14:01:36) I was merely pointing out the actual quote. Too often quotes are misquoted, and then gain common parlance. There is not a subtext here from me. But this reminds me of a story I read (it may be Frank Herbert - but is likely someone else) Two psychologists used to pass each other on the way to their respective clinics, and never said a word to each other. One day, one said to the other "Good Morning!". The other stopped, taken aback, and thought to himself "What did he mean by that?"

Re: Giant fox - Citizen (28th Nov 2016 - 22:38:18) Yes Richard, I know you were :-) That's sometimes the problem with written text, you can't always judge the good humoured inflections. Good to see other people at least being aware of these important quotes. Liz, I think you completely missed the point! Think: In this country, when was the last time you heard about someone actually being killed by a fly or a the behaviour of a fly? Now think: The same about a dog? p.s. I love dogs too! (In case that was also misunderstood!)

Re: Giant fox - H (28th Nov 2016 - 23:46:14) Some years ago I lived in Carshalton Beeches and the same fox visited my garden most days. One day in summer I was asleep on the sofa with the french doors open which lead into a suburban garden. I woke up and found the fox inside the house looking at me asleep. I did not move and watched the animal take a pair of leather gloves from the table and then it went outside again and buried the gloves in the garden. From that day on the fox came into the house and took the food from my hand personally and then buried it in the garden. I do not see them as vermin but wild creatures who have a right to life. They occassionally get mange and other things but spread less disease than rats or squirrels and pidgeons. They do not want to live indoors as bats and mice do.

Re: Giant fox - Tom (2nd Jan 2017 - 14:25:24) "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".. Edmund Burke .. about 200 years before Wiesenthal ripped it off FYI.

Re: Giant fox - John (2nd Jan 2017 - 17:58:04) Oh for goodness sake take your Disney tinted glasses off and get real. Foxes are vermin, most are flea ridden and mangy and like most vermin need to be controlled. I'm not in favour of your tally-ho hunting brigade but lets leave the soppy "foxes are lovely cuddly friends" attitude to cartoons and ignorant city dwellers who very rarely have any understanding of country living

Re: Giant fox - Andrew (2nd Jan 2017 - 21:19:06) Don't care about poets...... this was about a very large Fox....and he was back on old london road this morning about 0430...

Re: Giant fox - John wilson (4th Jan 2017 - 12:26:35) 2-45 this morning the large fox was just up the old pourtsmouthrd from the royal mail ,by a wheely bin. Looks old maybe decided urban area easier for a meal.

Re: Giant fox - Gill (4th Jan 2017 - 13:44:16) On a rail commute home last year I saw a black fox near Milford. It was stunning.

Re: Giant fox - Diana (4th Jan 2017 - 15:30:47) Hi John, have you ever actually seen a real fox? The word Vermin applies to humans not fox's. Very few are flea ridden and even less have mange. They do not need controlling because they controll themselves. No food ,no foxes ,same with rabbits and most animals except humans who breed even if there isn't a food source.They are excellant rat and mice catchers and chickens to if the owners leave them available.Why do you want to controll them? what harm are they doing to you? They are beautifull wild animals and have a right to life the same as you.

Re: Giant fox - John (4th Jan 2017 - 17:37:45) seen lots, shot lots, as I said...vermin

Re: Giant fox - Alison Ryan (4th Jan 2017 - 20:44:24) I find it abborent that John must try and attribute the love of foxes to " townies" what a load of fox poo... I have spent nearly 60 years in the country and have lived on a farm and have kept chickens, which to my not keeping them safe have been taken, but I still love to see a wild animal , but you, John , you have a blood lust which is aborent to most humans and it seems you will only be happy when there are no wild animals left. Do not give the excuse they are vermin, as the only vermin are the people like you trying to wipe out our native wild animals

Re: Giant fox - Megan (5th Jan 2017 - 22:31:11) People are to extreme on both sides of the argument. Everybody is entilited to there opinion but no need to get nasty or personal to anybody about it. People live differently to each other so they are going to have different opinions on subjects especially when it comes to Fox's and hunting. Nobody is right or wrong that is what people have to remember as it's just an opinion nobody can control that. But people need to stop getting nasty and personal on this site towards people who don't have the same opinion as themselves. It doesn't make them horrible people.

Re: Giant fox - A. Ryan (6th Jan 2017 - 16:39:59) Re Megan's remark, I am sorry if my post has touched on your sensitivities, but I do believe John's last post was aiming to create a response that he knew would make people reply in this way. In fact I thought I was being very reserved, what I really think could not be written down believe me. As to everyone having different opinions, yes in life we do, but one would have to say by the tone of his wording with the obvious gloating of a dead wild animal I would have to ask who's post is more disturbing ?

Re: Giant fox - Megan (6th Jan 2017 - 21:56:10) I agree his comments wanted a big reaction which is what people gave him. But even so no point in anybody getting personal. I have had it on here just on my opinion to the point they were trying to affect my livilyhood and being very rude about my family just because of my opinion. All I'm saying is no need for anybody to become nasty at somebody else it isn't right.

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