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Autumn Budget 25 - Paul2 (19th Nov 2025  12:36:38) If council tax rises as the Chancellor is briefing - eg some properties in our area could see a doubling in council tax - would you pay it? Or would people be willing to protest and fight increases?

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Non voter (19th Nov 2025  16:00:27) Unfortunately we are getting what the country voted for the idiots that believed the Labour lies . The ones that remember last time knew what was coming.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Steve (19th Nov 2025  17:44:28) You could of course wait until the actual budget measures have been announced next week and comment on those rather than on press speculation 🤔

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Paul2 (19th Nov 2025  19:48:48) Or we could critically appraise what Labour MP's and SpAds have been leaking for weeks Steve? [editor]"Spads" refers to special advisers in government[/editor]

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Steve (19th Nov 2025  21:02:27) Or what the press have reported them as saying Paul. I can see a difference, perhaps you regard what you read on line,or in the papers as the gospel truth 🤔

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Charlie (20th Nov 2025  11:13:14) Steve I used to work for an MP. The leaks are spoon fed to the press by the Government for a number of reasons, the main one being that if everyone is being told the worst is about to happen, when the budget is actually revealed and is not quite so bad, people are grateful. Tactics.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - sam (20th Nov 2025  12:51:32) If you wont acknowledge what caused all this then you cant fix it. When the general population and political class grow a pair and highlight what we all done whilst we "took back nothing" then we can start to repair it. Every average person is approx £2000 per year worse off based entirely on one decision, yet they have happy to throw their toys out if a tax comes along and steals much less.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Steve (20th Nov 2025  12:53:08) Charlie I am sure there is a certain amount of deliberate leaking mixed in with a similar amount of rumours set off by people who believe almost anything they hear. In my view both are equally undesirable and certainly not helpful. My previous point was that, within a week, we shall all know what 'is' actually in the budget and after that there will be ample opportunity for everyone, including Paul2 to express their views.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Paul2 (20th Nov 2025  14:57:50) Having also worked directly with No10 in the past I know that SpAds will not only be briefing ('leaking') but as Charlie pointed out testing reactions. So we have a clear sense of what's coming. But my question right at the start was - will people take a stand if we see significant council tax increases? Or are people too meek to stand up these days?

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - C (20th Nov 2025  15:33:58) Happy to pay my council tax. It covers adult social care, waste collection, policing services fire prevention and rescue services and children's services, amongst many other things. (and no, I don't work for the council and I don't have children)

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - M (21st Nov 2025  08:18:37) Its been made pretty clear that taxes will rise next week and there's nothing you can do about that unless you leave the country. Reeves is out of her depth and is desperate to remain in post. Starmer much the same they won't be there for much longer.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - PR (21st Nov 2025  11:28:23) C - That's probably why you could afford to - lucky you

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Maz (21st Nov 2025  20:58:06) @paul2 What do you think you could do to change the huge hike coming? Really interested to know your opinion.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Charlie (22nd Nov 2025  11:52:44) Maz Two things where money could be saved spring to mind. Streamlining the Welfare Budget to enable those that are genuinely in need of help and support to receive it and remove the time-wasters and those who have no intention of looking for work. Streamlining the NHS. It is not all about lack of money. The NHS has for many years been a top heavy and unweildy organisation. Too much money spent on management which has proved time and again to be inefficient. So many savings could be made there. It will never happen of course as the Labour Party has such a huge majority and many of Labour's back benchers would vote against any such changes.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - M (23rd Nov 2025  07:37:04) @ Charlie Maz posed his question to the OP ( paul2) who as yet hasn't responded. Its a valid question because he's putting out inflammatory comments without publishing his own opinion in his post. Just odd really and unhelpful, not what this site is about.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - D (23rd Nov 2025  08:38:51) Charlie, I think the greatest increase in public expenditure in recent years has been the setting up of what mounts to a separate education system for "special needs" children, something which has been recognised by this government as being unsustainable. When I was at school it was one teacher to a class of 25-30 kids. Now, with the proliferation of various behaviour disorders they have their own special schools with a ratio of four pupils to one teacher (some of whom may just be teaching assistants, have to be paid all the same). No interest seems to be shown by either the state or parents to either prevent, control or cure these childhood conditions which didn't exist fifty years ago. Indeed, when one overhears conversations between groups of mothers it seems to be something to aspire to. Seems to be a booming business, and guess who's paying. As with the civil service pensions twenty years ago, pensioners being targeted is only the beginning. I've STILL not met anyone who will admit to having voted this lot in.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - A different M (23rd Nov 2025  09:26:42) Strange how we're constntly told that it's the previous governments fault that the country has no money, and the current lot needs to raise more money and grow the economy, when it seems they're going to abolish the 2 child limit on benefit at a cost of £3b? This budget will be solely to pander to existing Labour supporters and, more importantly for Reeves, pacify the Labour back benchers and keep them on side. Those of us who she will target, supposidly with broad shoulders but who are also living just within their means like everyone else, will need to just stop spending completely and tighten our belts even more. What will that do for her plans to grow the economy and fill her coffers? Totally agree with Charlies comments. Government needs to tighten it's belt, just like we're all going to have to do.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - D (23rd Nov 2025  10:26:14) A Different M, hear hear, I've never heard the previous government blamed so much. After being in power for over a year one would think Labour would be taking some responsibility by now. Doesn't look like it.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - C (23rd Nov 2025  11:43:51) D - do you just sit at your computer all day trying to devise the most controversial and emotive things to say? Very sad existence and quite mind blowing the things you think to be true. Of course these conditions existed fifty years ago. Hate to break it to you but so did gay people. Perhaps things might have changed in 50 years whereby we have more science, more insight and more research into these things. I imagine you also think women should be at home cooking in the kitchen all day. You can wish that life was the same as it was fifty years ago but however much you want that, it isn’t. Perhaps go and volunteer at the Liphook laundry and spend your time bringing some positivity to the community? Pathetic.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - M (23rd Nov 2025  12:24:18) Starmer is on his way....its a civil war in Labour about to happen esp after the budget. @ paul2 you still haven't posted your opinion,how very odd! Guessing you don't pay council tax then.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - D (23rd Nov 2025  14:53:51) C, I do accept that my last comment may be a tad emotive in these times. But if you are one of those who voted this lot in, I forgive you. Don't like to disappoint YOU but ADHD, neuro-divergent and all the rest of it was not on any medical journal fifty years ago. I'm merely pointing out (by this governments own admission) where a vast chunk of our money is going where it wasn't going before. No need to be rude, not the sort of conduct one expects from a relatively affluent area on the edge of the south Downs National Park.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Charlie (23rd Nov 2025  18:54:54) M I do not understand your post. You seem to be criticising me for responding to a question posted by Maz to Paul2. Please correct me if am mistaken. Also I don't understand your sentence and I quote "Just odd really and unhelpful, not what this site is about". Please enlighten me. Thanking you in anticipation.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - C (23rd Nov 2025  19:49:44) I don’t require any forgiveness from you D. For any reason.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - passfield resident (23rd Nov 2025  22:09:58) D-I suppose you have never been rude on here to anyone?There are many more treatments for cancer than there used to be, and lots of other medical advances-it's called progress.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - Joe (23rd Nov 2025  23:41:20) The point D is trying to make is that benefits are now being given out for conditions such as ADHD in children which is something that 50 years ago would not have been a medical condition to attract social security benefits. The system was devised by the post war government to give temporary financial assistance if you were a worker who became ill. It was never devised to encompass a lifetime spent living on benefits without ever having had employment. The sad thing is dementia is not revognised as an illness and does not attract benefit.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - D (24th Nov 2025  08:08:50) Thankyou, Joe, absolutely correct.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - D (24th Nov 2025  08:11:30) C, if I wanted to be emotive and controversial I would just start a thread entitled:- "worst government ever, more women in government than ever, discuss". 😉

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - D (27th Nov 2025  08:11:41) The hypocrisy of this government knows no bounds. They moaned at the last government for freezing the income tax threshold, and then extend it! There again it was this lot who whined about John Major not calling a general election as soon as he was appointed party leader but were happy for Gordon Brown to serve three years as prime minister with no election at all. Chancellor Peeves made comments about the NHS being in a bad way yesterday, strange how they could spare over twenty staff to stand behind her looking fed up while she gave her post budget speech. (Don't know why she bothered, it was public knowledge before she even spoke in the commons). As for the lifting of the two child benefit cap, it makes no difference when you can have the third child diagnosed with a mental illness. Worst government ever...

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - C (27th Nov 2025  09:08:23) Complaining on an online village community forum will show 'em though and definitely effect change!

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - D (27th Nov 2025  10:06:50) We'll show 'em, C. Glad you're with me. Power to the people and all that.

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - C (28th Nov 2025  09:06:41) Absolutely D - have heard that due to your comments the Government is now completely reconsidering the Autumn Budget! Who knew Liphook Talkback had such influence?!

Re: Autumn Budget 25 - AF (29th Nov 2025  05:35:33) So Rachel from accounts had to raise taxes again despite saying in the last budget that she wouldn't to fill another black hole in the finances. However, it seems there was no black hole it was simply a lie made up by the treasury. Rachel is in charge of the treasury. If she possessed any integrity she would resign. I didn't think ministers were allowed to lie in the commons. You thought the Tories were bad.

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