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Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Mark (23rd Sep 2017 - 08:22:06)

If you ask any local youth what is there to do in Liphook I am 99% certain they will say nothing.

I have lived here since the age of 8 and now 26 years later the town has pretty much doubled in size and yet still has the same facilities available for our local youths NOTHING.

This is not another skate park thread but the only thing of note that the local council has done to provide anything of sort which is free is install the Skate park around 15 years ago. I was part of the original group that they approached with regards to what we would need all those years ago, it fell on deaf ears and it literally went to the cheapest tender placing the ramps on the old original playground broken tarmac which for anyone that has ever done any type of skating will tell you is just awful, especially when the stones get stuck under your wheels. Like with anywhere you get anti social people not using things properly, but there are those that do use it for its intended purpose but they are often approached by people who have moved into new houses only built a few years ago to keep the noise down. These are young people socialising with friends trying to skate, you wouldn't sit down the pub in silence.

Other local areas have provided facilities for there youths both free and cheap paid entry, just look at the great new area they have put in at Bordon and the superb free skate park that they have just built, Grayshott, Haslemere, Petersfield all have provided top quality facilities for there youths yet we still have nothing.

This town (its no longer a small village) is getting bigger and with that comes a bigger population, its about time we used some of the land ear marked for development and use the developers cash to build and provide things to do for our youths, they will eventually be allowed to build new houses on it all anyway regardless.

Bohunt have 1800 students attend there school during the week yet they are trying there hardest to force any outside club using there facilities, years ago we used to be able to use the courts for Tennis/Basketball for free as kids but now its all gated off and locked up, its about time they chipped in more to the local community to.

I am part of a club that provides sports and exercise to over 200 local children giving them the chance to learn new skills, meet new people and make some great fiends, yet we struggle to find the space and facilities we need to move forward, with a bigger local population comes more participants and more teams which causes a big car parking issue Saturday mornings with potentially 10 local teams which means another 10 visiting teams trying to squeeze onto bare minimum space, can you imagine 20 teams of parents all trying to use a car park that only fits 20 cars in, that is potentially over 100 players, and then we move onto the other 7 teams who only have 1 pitch that they can call there home pitch and is only allowed to be played on no more than twice a week, whilst almost being forced away from the other pitch that they use at another local facility.

It is very poor and embarrassing that we as a local community can not provide for our future adults.Its time to stop living in the past, it is no longer a small village and it is time we did something about it.

Bored youths breeds antisocial behaviour, so dont complain the next time they knock on your door and run away, its about the only thing that they can do around here.




Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- D (23rd Sep 2017 - 10:33:47)

I couldn't agree more with you on the note that liphook has nothing for the youth to do here,I moved here nearly 2 years ago from a much rougher area,liphook is as far as I'm concerned a safer place to bring up my kids! And as a mother of 6 kids 2 still at home teenager and junior age I'm only too aware at what your saying.But as the original poster of moaning because kids rang my doorbell at 1.30 am I will moan and be very angry at that!knock on my door during the day or even early evening it would be bloody kids and that would be it! But that time of the morning they should not even be out waking and scaring younger kids by ringing doorbells,to me that is just ridiculous and if say more than just being bored!!

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- The Joy (23rd Sep 2017 - 13:32:45)

Just about hit the nail on the head.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Trevor Maroney (23rd Sep 2017 - 15:29:28)

The lack of facilities for youngsters, particularly teenagers was identified in the large youth survey conducted over 4 year's ago. A survey compiled from a questionnaire completed by over 920 youngsters. Its findings were published in the Bramshott and Liphook Parish Plan last year along with an Action Plan to tackle the lack of facilities along with other issues. The plan was adopted by the Parish Council.
The Parish Plan will now be superseded by the Neighbourhood Development Plan. As this is a legal document it carries more weight. Until it has been completed and a vision for the future set little will change.

T Maroney
Chairman BLPP

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- C (23rd Sep 2017 - 20:21:48)

Who is actually on board with improving facilities as if the Parish Council were passionate enough they could apply for lottery funding as they are eager to support local communities?!? Worth looking into, if not then people power is very powerful so why not organise a community meeting as the skate park is currently not only dangerous but a wasteland that could be sorted easily! He 10 yr old would love it, must check out Bordon skate park too, I presume the developers paid for that to keep the locals sweet?

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Mark (23rd Sep 2017 - 21:01:40)

I would be more than willing to help out the best I can but I can not at present take on all of the organising that would en tale as I have other commitments to a local club.

FYI- Bohunt gained lottery funding for there sportshall, The following is taken from the lottery funding website, the changing facilities were un usable today as the lights were hanging from the ceiling and Bohunt being part of the community couldn't be any further from the truth. There is no care from there part at all what the local youths do afer school hours.

Tired, worn out, old facilities make it harder for people to start or keep doing sport. They can also be more expensive to run and difficult to maintain. That’s why the National Lottery is helping community sports centres to stay at the top of their game through Sport England’s Inspired Facilities fund. The fund is aiming to help hundreds of groups to refurbish or upgrade their old sports facility, or convert an existing building into a venue where the whole community can come together to enjoy sport and exercise.

Since the scheme began facilities across England have benefited from improvements including the creation of warm changing rooms, the installation of showers, more efficient and affordable heating and electricity, new windows, new lighting, better pitches, modern sports equipment and perhaps most importantly, many facilities have been made more accessible to people of all abilities so that everyone in the community can enjoy them.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Kate (24th Sep 2017 - 00:57:06)

Never heard such a pile of nonsense all from probably the same person using different usernames.
Compared to other nearby locations based on population Liphook is doing fairly well on facilities and specifically the skatepark which is entirely functional and under use yet it’s being utterly abused as its not locked up at night, it has no CCTV and those that use it have no respect for their neighbours and spend 100% of their time being as obnoxious as possible to everyone nearby
No investment/improvement in the skatepark UNLESS it’s fenced off, has CCTV and there is justification for spending 100k which is 20 times or more than other clubs like football will EVER receive or indeed a 100 times more per user than any other club.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Mark (24th Sep 2017 - 10:08:44)

I ensure you I am not the same person using different usernames.

I think you need to actually take a proper look around and see what is available else where.


Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Jane (24th Sep 2017 - 15:44:59)

Totally agree Mark - you are spot on! Katie not sure what planet you are on...
As mother of three teenagers such a shame they are embarrassed as to where they live and won't invite friends over as there's nothing to do here except walk the dog! so end up travelling to Petersfield, Haslemere or Guildford for sports,activities,arts etc. Bohunt facilities very expensive to hire and the astro is such poor quality and the occasional cinema shows films that are available on DVD which by the time I have paid for them could have rented/bought film online cheaper. No teenage/family restaurants here either. Its a shame that their money is spent in other towns not reinvested in Liphook. Yes filled in the parish plan but seems unlikely any change will happen for them in time. Obviously once they are senior citizens there is lots of activities on offer then! as there was when they were toddlers! but its the Teenagers that are left out....

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Karina (26th Oct 2017 - 14:20:56)

Roughly two years ago Liphook Youth Club was re-started after a break due to the lack of volunteers to help run it.

It has been held at the Millennium Centre every Monday from 6.30-8.30 during term time. The club offers youngsters from 11 to 16 a range of activities in a safe environment.

However, the Club has run into difficulties as the numbers of voluntary adult helpers have dwindled and with few adults to run the sessions there has been an issue of behaviour management. Sessions had to be cancelled due to bad behaviour. Unless we get more adult volunteers, the Club may have to stop running.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Slimetime (26th Oct 2017 - 16:05:45)

I hope I'm not going off topic too much but here goes. I went to Mundesley in Norfolk a few months back and their outdoor skatepark was amazing, it really was, made me wish that I had brought my skateboard with me. Population of Mundesley 2758 (2011 census). Liphook population 8491 (2011 census) Why with a population far greater than Mundesley do we have such a poor skatepark? I have been to many skatepark up and down the UK so believe me when I say ours is awful. I'm in my mid thirties and I do dust off the grip tape from time to time and go for a skate but I would never use our skatepark as it is far too dangerous and nor would I allow my son to use either for the same reason.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- D (26th Oct 2017 - 16:45:01)

I believe this is exactly the sort of thing that the Neighbourhood Plan would be interested in hearing.

Get in touch with them (see link to the left) and give your views about what you'd like to see in the Liphook of the future.
It's not all about housing, it's more about getting the Parish facilities, infrastructure etc. and not just housing estates.

If you don't make your voice heard then there will be no evidence base to support new facilities.
Tell THEM about it!

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Lucy (27th Oct 2017 - 15:13:32)

A good ambition but new facilities has to be mainly
funded by swathes of new housing. Also new facilities
have been put in Liphook only for it to be set on fire or
Vandalised. The facilities gained in Bordon have been paid for by gaining 3 thousand new houses. Is that really what
We want just to get the new skatepark.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Kevin (27th Oct 2017 - 18:22:03)

If you can get them to Haslemere we are now recruiting for Haslemere Air Cadets. We take boys and girls from year 8 and above.
We have an open evening On Thursday 2nd November 19.00pm to 21.30pm. Please come along and see what we do.

Our activities include flying, gliding, First Aid, radio communications
adventure training, sports , shooting, camps and many more.

We meet every Tuesday and Thursday evenings from 7pm to 9.30pm.
For more information, please visit our website at haslemereaircadets.co.uk

Please call 01428 653933 for more information.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Peter (29th Oct 2017 - 15:42:01)

I can’t believe the levels of selfish entitlement by some posts on here, the demand and insult that the rest of the residents and council are somehow letting the youth down and we all need to cough up in excess of 80k which is many times to the order of 10 times or more of any other facility or club to satisfy their frankly selfish entitled minority club needs. I skated when I was young, I still have a board and I walk my dog in and around the present facilities and they are both safe and good. so I would ask that those crying about it find some gratitude it even exists rather than spend all their time moaning about it.
The current facilities are maintained, only last year they were closed for repairs and anyone whom has posted “dangerous” or “not fit for purpose” need their heads checked out. Yes, it’s not world class, yes it’s not crystal smooth tarmac but come on! Give it a rest! its entirely functional ramp to ramp. Sure newer parks and those from bigger towns are better but there is plenty of towns the same size of Liphook throughout the UK that have nothing.
If you want to spank 80k+ for a few dozen kids then crack on and do it, find a new location next to the millennium centre so we can put CCTV on it and stop bitchin to a majority that see’s straight through this ridiculous claim that there is nothing provided for the youth in this town.
Why is it that Skater’s (of which I was one) seem to inherit this angst ridden unfriendly and disrespectful attitude of entitlements and noise, you don’t see the kids whom play football/cricket/rugby or indeed any other sport cry on this forum that the football posts which cost a faction of the skate park were not as good as those at Wembley.
Give it a rest as the majority isn’t buying it and the majority would rather spend the money on many more kids at a fraction of the cost… make do and show some respect, then we might be inclined to invest as currently when the rest of us tax payer’s walk pass it we are liberally told to f*** o** by you as you think a skateboard makes you some sort of alternative society and it’s got to be us v them.
It’s just another sport, an extremely expensive to facilitate sport and one that very few of you are actually engaged in after we spank 50 times the per user cash average of every other sport in the village

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- d (29th Oct 2017 - 19:43:29)

Well said Peter. Let's see the users make an effort to raise the money themselves perhaps then others may take a more sympathetic view of the situation.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Penny (30th Oct 2017 - 14:10:14)

Well done Peter. That really needed to be said.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- I (30th Oct 2017 - 15:03:56)

Peter - well said.

Re: Youth Facilities in Liphook
- Tina (4th Nov 2017 - 15:55:41)

Finally some common sense being shared, well said Peter

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