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Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - M Robins (15th Jan 2017 - 11:26:26) I regularly cycle down Longmoor Rd past AWB recycling, and have seen increasing damage done to the strip of woodland between Longmoor Rd and the A3. AWB appear to not only be using the woods as a car park for a motley collection of dilapidated cars. .which I can only assume are destined for scrap or salvage... but are actually clearly destroying the trees and bushes bit by bit to enlarge their 'car park'. If they own the land, then fine I guess? Although they are clearly throwing down hardcore / rubble in this area in order to allow cars to be parked here, which I'm pretty sure contravenes some council or environmental laws? Pretty surprised I haven't seen this mentioned here before, as many other cyclists and walkers I run into say it's terrible. Anyone know what the situation is here? How is it they are allowed to do this with seeming impunity? I would have thought any upstanding business wouldn't be doing something so blatant? Feel free to cycle - walk - drive down the road yourselves to see what I mean! Mike

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Rob (15th Jan 2017 - 14:00:13) They have parked there for years, think if they have done it for over 7 years it can't be stopped. They have had lorries and cars parked there for a lot more than the 7 years. They are very helpful there I don't see a problem with the parking on that peace of ground

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Matt (15th Jan 2017 - 19:30:42) Hi there, I have lived in Liphook over 30 years and can only ever remember this area being used as a salvage/scrap yard. I fail to see the "issue". It would be good for a change to see praise for a local family run business employing local people and providing a honest friendly service. I think the original poster would have more to say if scrap vehicles and other waste were being dumped/abandoned near his home, rather than disposed of at the local registered recycling centre. Perhaps choose another cycle route, rather than try to make problems for a local established business. Matt

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - M Robins (15th Jan 2017 - 22:29:41) Ok, clearly the two follow up posters have some sort of vested interest in AWB. The point wasn't about what they were doing on their own land.. but rather the fact they are essentially taking over what I assume to be common or council property. There is still evidence of flattened vegetation... so no.. they haven't parked in this area for years... they are increasing the parking area by destroying trees and bushes... then laying down rubble / hard-core. You now need planning permission to do that on your own land.. I'm therefore guessing it's breaching some laws by dumping rubble on common land, to make a stable parking area. How lovely that they are "really helpful " and a family owned business. Does this mean they can do whatever they like because they employ local people?

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - H (16th Jan 2017 - 10:52:03) You can report your concerns to East Hampshire district Council who should investigate. Verges are usually owned by The County council. Local business or not obstruction is obstruction!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Matt (16th Jan 2017 - 18:38:33) Hi there, In reply, as the original poster states only "guessing". Which is my point entirely do your home work first before making assumptions which could have damaging affects to a business. For the record no "vested" interest just get fed up with people trying to make a situation using the incorrect paths. If you have a problem seek the correct information from the relevant authorities. Perhaps you should have started your thread "how do i find out what land is owned by a company and or what land are they allowed to use". Then you could get the facts before naming/starting a damaging thread or boring narrow minded rant. Get on your bike and ride!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Rob (16th Jan 2017 - 21:21:32) I have nothing to do with this company except hire skips for rubbish. What if they parked the cars, vans and lorries on the road witch is totally legal. You would complain about that. Just let the guys do their jobs and you ride yr bike somewhere else!!!!!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Debbie (17th Jan 2017 - 10:38:39) Is this the area you're on about Mike? Google streetview This was taken from google street view in 2009.

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Dawn Hoskins (17th Jan 2017 - 11:56:23) Wow I love it when someone raises an item for discussion and someone tells him/her that this is not the place to have a discussion!!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Mike Robins (17th Jan 2017 - 14:19:22) Hi Debbie. Yep that's it.. if you look at it now.. wow.. what a transformation! Looks like a bulldozer has been driven through the forest / bushes, and rubble / hardcore (broken concrete / old bricks) laid down to allow them to park the cars. That picture shows that far from "parking their cars there for years", they've wilfully destroyed natural vegetation for their own gain. Anyone that fails to the "issue" really should go down there and have a look at the difference.. THEN start picking an argument for the sake of it. Yes it is nice they're helpful to customers, and a local company etc etc.. Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed I do love it how some posters are trying to deride me for riding my bike down public roads then commenting on clearly illegal activities by businesses on an open forum meant for comment. One can only assume a close association between them.. or the poster really needs to appreciate the issue before trying to pick holes in everything. If it's a "boring narrow-minded rant".. why waste so much of your indubitably precious time berating me for not phrasing things how you would like to have seen them? Rob says "let the guys do their job".. if you honestly think what they're doing down there is "their job", I can only assume you haven't seen it, so I'll not comment on your naivety here. Having seen the comparison between the Streetview 2009 photos and what it looks like today.. I'm flabberghasted. If I do report it I can only hope they get made to return it to how it was.

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - P W Ike (18th Jan 2017 - 13:21:55) Suggest that you do report it so that there is no confusion regarding what is allowed here. If we all did what AWB do then the whole area would be a shambles. If AWB are acting within the law then they have nothing to worry about.

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Franco vaccaro (19th Jan 2017 - 11:31:22) I live 4 doors down from awb around 7 years ago the main sewer pipe burst down longmoor road flooding several property there would have been more flooded Thames water have a pumping station next to awb with a holding tank Thames had four tanker lorry on turn around but they could not cope.as only one lorry could fill at a time so awb gave permission to run pipes on top of there drive way and under longmoor road to parking area were Thames contractors cleared the brush wood left behind by southern electric and hard cored a larger area to accommodate four tanker lorrys a welfare unit and a very large diesel pump that could fill two lorrys at once.this went on for at least 6 mths day and night.now this area is left for when we have problems with sewer.only last year we had problems down here and the tankers were discharging on Westland hill if you need to no more speak awb or David smith at Hampshire council we all live in fear of our homes and property flooding. Franco vaccaro

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - M Robins (20th Jan 2017 - 15:41:53) Not sure what your deal is Franco, but I'm telling you they've expanded the area over the last six months, as I said I cycle past it several times a month. The only drainage issues that have been down there in the last couple years was Thames Water messing up putting in the new pipe along the length of Longmoor Rd but there wasn't any serious flooding. It doesn't even feature on the Environmental Agency list of flood areas.. which is surprising considering how you've been hamming it up! Wasn't it convenient for AWB they were left with a ready-made car park after the events of seven years ago! Couldn't have planned it better if they'd tried, (now they have a fleet of knackered vehicles needing dumping whilst awaiting salvage). You'd have thought if Thames Water had done all this damage they would've been forced to have put it back to how it was (not leave an industrial sized car park behind, and considering it's not their land) once the situation was resolved. There is no danger of flooding in this area any longer (cannot speak about what allegedly happened 7 years ago).. there's a new sewer pipe laid down, ditches along the road side and a massive drain / water course that runs under the A3 not 50 yards away. For you to claim "we all live in fear of our homes and property flooding" is a joke. Not sure if you're really from AWB or what the agenda is, but I know people living on the road too.. there's been no drastic flooding for years, and AWB is turning that area into its own private dumping ground. I've no idea who David Smith is.. perhaps you could elaborate?

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Grow up (20th Jan 2017 - 17:04:52) I think whoever M Robins is needs to investigate more, not exactly Sherlock are we..... However Look at the last message posted on this thread!? Meeting on Drains - 20th July 2015 I would say, if you know people that live on Longmoor road, then they must be deaf, blind and no sense of smell, to have not seen, heard or smelt this!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Grow up (20th Jan 2017 - 17:10:59) M Robins can take a look at this thread to: Community Forum - Can the drains take the strain? - July 2015

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Helen (20th Jan 2017 - 23:11:02) I think we are getting off the original post here, which is that AWB are using the verge and road as part of their breakers yard presumably without a proper licence. Whether or not Thames water historically used the same land for an emergency situation is no longer relevant. Perhaps The county council should charge them rent!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Ian (21st Jan 2017 - 10:10:19) The problem nowadays is there are so many breaches of planning rules, bylaws etc and there is just no enforcement anymore. Presumably local government is so hamstrung by cost cutting and budget restrictions they just do not have the resources to deal with all the issues. For example there is a forest of estate agent boards on the council verge on the junction with longmoor road at Griggs Green which is totally against local planning regs but if you speak to the council about it they tell you they have no-one to enforce the rule. Crazy times but I guess we all want low community taxes

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (27th Jan 2017 - 07:13:06) Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Steve Wilson (27th Jan 2017 - 13:25:34) You can park on the road over night what do you think they are doing down the Headley Rd, also down the Portsmouth Rd. And were they park is just a side road now, not like the Headley Rd & Portsmouth Rd. I've just taken rubbish there the only one fire is a small fire the guys in the yard have made out of old wood to keep themselves warm as its so cold. They just go to the small fire for a warm up every now and then. The people with a problem why don't you pop in and talk to the boys before slagging them on here. I have always found them doing a good job and most helpful. Think it sounds like a bit of envey on how well they are doing!!!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (27th Jan 2017 - 16:42:37) Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (27th Jan 2017 - 16:50:50) Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - George (27th Jan 2017 - 17:19:33) Another Keyboard warrior.....grows some balls and go see the boys! i believe this is a case on envy, and defamation of Character?

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Steve Wilson (27th Jan 2017 - 18:25:49) I have had a word with the police on 101 there has never been any case of awb using red diesel!!!!! So what's yr game and you can park any Lorry on that road in that speed limit the police have just informed me!!! Think you better put a apology on this site to the boys, or if I was them would take you to court!!!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - a...... (27th Jan 2017 - 18:29:26) Oh.... , these last five posts did make me snigger !!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Local resident (27th Jan 2017 - 19:13:19) After reading this post I am concerned this is a bit of Victimization and maybe the Editor can say there situation on this. As I think allowing someone to state a criminal offence where there is no actual proof is wrong and I would go as far as saying Defamation Of Character, what could ruin a local business. I would also say that there is may I say many people along that road that seem to Flaunt the rule's. There is someone who lives near the factory Argolin that repair vehicles and lorry's on the side of the road outside the property, a few times I have driven down there to see a lorry cab in the air and the persron working away on it. If im wrong im sorry in advance. I would also like to point out that when I have driven down that road at night I haven't seen any AWB Lorry's parked out on the main road, I have even been to there yard first thing in the morning before the gates are opened and had to wait until the lorrys were brought out before I could go in. I'm all for Proof to be supplied of the above offenses, but in the mean time I think it's wrong to state something without backing it up. Parking on a made up section on the road is one thing but to make out a company is defrauding the government is another and all this can cause a lasting effect on the company. Local Resident

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Matt (27th Jan 2017 - 19:45:37) I think Steve needs to go back to school and learn how to spell rather than worrying himself about a successful local business. They are fully licensed and deal with scrap metal and waste, that doesn't make them the lowest of the low. Who do you think you are?

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Gina (27th Jan 2017 - 19:59:55) I have access to the current electoral roll, and can confirm there is no mike or Michael Robins that lives in Liphook or the surrounding areas.... so let's see if the big man that cares so much about Liphook's countryside when out cycling, can be a big man and reveal his true identity..... or is it a case of the countryside is more important than registering to vote?

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (29th Jan 2017 - 10:39:24) Maybe if this mess was out side your house in bramshott gina you might not defend your friend

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Steve Wilson (29th Jan 2017 - 13:54:43) So you live near the yard and that's yr problem!!! Why not be honest in the first place???? And I guess you know the name yr using was a Liphook lad that was in the army that was killed when the ira bombed mill hill in London in about 1989 so I guess you went to school with him so you can must be about 50

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Gina (29th Jan 2017 - 14:37:37) Steve- You obviously know me, so reveal your identity? For your information it is a mess in Bramshott, especially my back garden,..all turned to mud,..how dare my kids turn up my grass into mud!...the churchyard another area in Bramshott, thats a complete mess, especially in the summer, when its overgrown. so we can assume that both Steve & Mike are the same person?, im big enough to reveal my name, lets see you follow suit?

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - M Robins (2nd Feb 2017 - 12:23:00) Tried to post a reply to this a couple days ago but doesn't appear to have worked. Apologies to the pair of hapless Sherlocks, Gina and Steve Wilson, I am just Mike Robins, not this Steve also. Firstly, to the somewhat histrionic Mr Wilson. No I wasn't aware about M Robins killed by the IRA. It is my name. Guess what.. there is a chance that I don't actually LIVE in Liphook!? I contract to the Longmoor Camp, on and off, and hence cycle down Longmoor Rd sometimes on my travels. Perhaps in your blinkered eyes that means I don't deserve to ask the community questions about the apparent situation that's occurring there regarding environmental damage? Sorry, of course you guys will think that.. you're clearly mates/ family with the AWB owners. Speaking of which.. anyone seen the other thread for AWB that has appeared on Talkback? All coming out in the wash eh! "Local resident" seems to think that why should we pick on AWB when there's plenty other businesses doing bad things. Great argument. This brings me to "Gina". Whoever this delightful mouthpiece is. The fact that you have gone hunting for me in the local area via the electoral roll, in order to do what? Send "the boys" around? I mean I have to say this shows all the signs of someone having a threatening agenda. Really quite incredible that you honestly think that this is acceptable. Someone questions the practises of AWB and you start trying to hunt them down to where they live throwing all sorts of threats and accusations out in the process. Get this into your brain Gina, I don't live locally. If I had,seeing how despicably you behave regards the electoral roll , I would've opted out of the "open" electoral register. That would've mean that yes I do register to vote.. but rabid vindictive creatures such as your self can't hunt me down. Basically stops people like you abusing the electoral register for your own nasty little personal agendas. It appears several of these emailers are closely connected, to each other, and probably therefore to AWB. Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed I was initially wondering why no-one who does live locally hasn't voiced their disapproval at the actions of AWB, but now I see why. Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed From reading other threads, is there a parish / county councillor living next door (or at least very close) to AWB?

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Gina (2nd Feb 2017 - 13:39:27) Mike Robins.... Gina the delightful mouthpiece here. I searched the electoral rolls for you, because alot of people that post on here, do not use their real name, hence the reason for searching for you. NO Threatening agenda what so ever, as far as i can tell from your response, your suggesting that i would use the information on the Electoral roll to "send the boys around"....have a word mate. Just like ive had a word with myself, and got into my brain, Mike Robins dont live in Liphook! what are you suggesting by your comment: It appears (by email tone, poor spelling / grammar, use of phrases like "the boys" for AWB) several of these emailers are closely connected, to each other, and probably therefore to AWB. you think my mouth is unacceptable, but you think its ok to abuse someone with the above comments?..... For your information: I am a genealogist, and subscribe to Find my past, which gives access to the electoral rolls, as for being related to AWB, I am not related or work for them, i havent found any connection in my family tree yet, that links me to them! so from this bargain basement mafia: “Mafia! What is that? A kind of cheese?” ~ Gerlando Alberti

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Ian (2nd Feb 2017 - 14:24:01) Gina, I think you've been 'busted'

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Gina (2nd Feb 2017 - 14:39:57) Mike Robins.... quote from you: Someone questions the practises of AWB and you start trying to hunt them down to where they live throwing all sorts of threats and accusations out in the process. You tell me, where and when I have thrown threats and accusations? The mouthpiece

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (2nd Feb 2017 - 16:32:05) Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - M Robins (2nd Feb 2017 - 16:34:21) Gina, The very fact you have taken the initiative, and let's be frank it's a very positive move, to try to search for me (My address) on the electoral roll could be considered threatening. I do not know anything about you, and yet you are trying to find out where I live. If I did happen to live in one of those properties around AWB I'm pretty sure I'd feel quite threatened after I'd made a posting to voice my disquiet with the situation outside the front of AWB, then to have someone such as yourself try finding out where I live.. with the assumption that information will then be passed onto your apparent mates (the "boys") at AWB. But of course, you're inexplicably happy with what AWB are up to.. well I guess it does help not living there eh? As long as it doesn't affect you? You don't even have the "balls" to post your own full name.. so to start on some crusade to try to expose another poster is amusingly hypocritical. If you'd like to know why I took an immediate disliking to your post.. let's look at this bit: so let's see if the big man that cares so much about Liphook's countryside when out cycling, can be a big man and reveal his true identity..... Your repeated use of "big man" is a clear attempt at derision and to provoke a reaction, which, to your credit, you got. I think that you attempted to speak with such authority on the matter of the electoral roll (claiming to confirm to all that I wasn't on the electoral roll in the area and as such I didn't care even to vote), but yet showing a complete ignorance of the fact that there are two electoral rolls, one of which isn't searchable by the likes of Find My Past. You initial posting certainly didn't soundly like the friendly community genealogist you're now suggesting you are. It's a shame that you cannot grasp the simple fact about threats, it doesn't matter how you meant something (the searching for my address I took as a threat for very obvious reasons), it's how it was interpreted that matters. Your "accusation" was that it wasn't my true identity (I mean you hadn't found me on the one and only electoral roll! He must be a LIAR!!).. I mean honestly can you not see this? I almost feel I'm wasting my time doing this, but I guess I should go through the process, and hopefully it will register in your head what your little post actually signified. Do you act like this regularly? Baiting people, almost like the baying crowd in a pub fight? Obviously not wanting to get involved yourself (well it's not your problem is it Gina?), but quite happy to throw out your pseudo-facts and taunts form the sidelines. I'm not a regular reader of Talkback, so maybe you're known for it? Is it normally Gina The Talkback Troll?

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Gina (2nd Feb 2017 - 20:37:13) Mike- I am sorry that you looked at my post regarding the electoral search Threatening, i can guarantee that was not my intentions! As you said you are not a regular reader of Liphook Talkback, and many people post under different aliases, last week there was a complaint about a local biulding company, and a reply from "another person", using a different name, again re-enforcing and backing the original poster complaining about the local building company....it turned out it was the same person posting both,...slandering and ruining the reputation of a well established successful business....This was my reason on searching the register, if there was no one registered in Liphook or the area under that name, and considering we lost someone with the same name as yours, killed by the IRA....then we could assume Mike Robins would most probably be a fake poster, I apologize for not quite being Sherlock. Again i apologize for jumping the gun assuming you and Steve were the same person. By no means was i threatening or accusing anyone of anything. I encourage you to speak to AWB, you will infact find out, that this family are not what people here are portraying them to be. Thames Water made that Hard stand down Longmoor road, for when the sewers leaked everywhere, Mr Bray would more than likely be happy to show you the photographs of this. Failing this, contact Thames Water ask them where they positioned the power generators, Porta-cabin for the security, and the Toilet/Restroom for the lorry drivers, whilst the work/repairs were carried out. To Steve- Your accusations have nothing to do with me, you seem to have many concerns regarding their personal and working lives.....maybe your apart of AWB, because you seem to know the ins and outs of them....... If either of you feel, there has been any unlawful occurrences, then i urge you to contact the correct authorities, for them to investigate! Gina :-)

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - M Robins (3rd Feb 2017 - 10:45:04) Hi Gina, I appreciate the apology, i really do, and on my part I'm sorry I did go a bit overboard! There's various other people on the thread saying to "go see the boys" and it all sounds like quite a threatening environment. Maybe not threatening to me (don't actually live around here), but I try to empathise with others situations, and I think the AWB car parking / dumping is getting a bit much. Hard enough about the hard-standing.. if it was built by the water board for a purpose, I was unaware of that. I still do think if it's been put there for an emergency purpose, having 20 old bangers parked on it would be obstructing, and AWB shouldn't really be taking advantage of it how they are. Regards Mike

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - D (3rd Feb 2017 - 15:27:02) Mike. May I suggest to save all the agro and accusations that you just get in contact with EHDCs Environmental Dept and discuss it with them. I'm sure they'll know the best way of looking into the issue and who best to report it to. To be honest Liphook Talkback isn't the place to try and get anything done........... just the place to get a load of moaners and groaners ranting off at you from behind their keyboards. Good luck.

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (3rd Feb 2017 - 21:33:03) Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Anon (8th Feb 2017 - 08:57:14) M.Robins. As an outsider looking in on all of this, I think it's funny how every comment that has been made supporting AWB you completely disregard because they are supposedly "from AWB" or have some kind of hidden agenda. Have you ever thought that some of the outsiders looking in on this rant think it's an absolute waste of time. Carry on, say what you must, but surely to god you must have something more important to deal with in your own life? Rather than trying to bring other people down. If it really does bother you that much, then don't cycle down the road. Just like you said... "If it's a 'boring narrow-minded rant'.. why waste so much of your indubitably precious time berating me for not phrasing things how you would like to have seen them?" Take your own advice, why waste so much of your time bringing down other people with things that don't have to affect you. You never know what's going on in other people's lives, so why create drama when there is really no need. As for the comment made regarding the other post about AWB, that was back in 2009... do you really think that this local business would still be thriving if all of the comments on there were true, I really do doubt it. So I'd suggest that instead of believing every narrow minded comment on here, each and every one of you should get the facts before assuming. From my point of view, the comment about going in and seeing the boys isn't threatening in the slightest, more towards the fact that you should maybe actually go in and discuss your concerns with them, as they are actually down to earth, honest people. You could look at it either way, you're just choosing to see the bad. As for the red diesel comment, I regularly see the AWB vehicles at Sainsbury's filling up with fuel, so I highly doubt that red diesel is being used in the lorries as suggested. And I'm pretty sure, seeing as the comment was made back in 2009, checks would have obviously been made. Some people really do amaze me. Oh and for the record, no I'm not part of AWB or living down Longmoor Road. But yes, i have seen the "car park" you are making reference to. Which, I really believe is not a concern, especially for you, who only cycles down it a few times a month. You don't even live down this road, or even in Liphook for that matter, so yes I'd say it's not really your problem. You say to everyone that has commented that they must have some kind of hidden agenda for supporting AWB, but on the flip side perhaps you've got some kind of hidden agenda. Trying to cause dramas for a local recycling company. Grow up!

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (8th Feb 2017 - 20:01:50) Honest people no wonder you stayed anon ha ha thats funny thanks for making my day

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Anon (8th Feb 2017 - 21:39:05) Dear "Steve" If that's the only thing you can come back with, I feel sorry for you. Like I said, grow up. Regards, ANON

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (10th Feb 2017 - 22:11:07) Comment reported as libellous by AWB and thus removed

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Rita black (11th Feb 2017 - 02:00:00) Steve, My grandparents used to own rose cottage . I would appreciate it if you would stop making comments about my family. Instead of hiding behind a keyboard please feel free to come and see me if you have any thing else to say. What Mr Bray does in his scrapyard is nothing to do with me or my Family.

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - steve (13th Feb 2017 - 09:07:21) Rita im sorry i upset you

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Dianne (13th Feb 2017 - 22:59:06) I can help Gina solve her family connection to awb as she's had a sudden bout of amnesia ur god mother to and close friend of the owners grandchildren and as for Franco vaccarro he is a employee of awb

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Ian (14th Feb 2017 - 08:48:49) Blimey, John le Carré would be proud of this post! More twists and turns than one of his novels, great stuff

Re: Longmoor Rd AWB issue? - Editor (14th Feb 2017 - 17:16:57) No further posts on this matter will be accepted.

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