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Flag Pole
- Jeremy S (24th Jun 2016 - 08:16:12)

Now the shackles of the EU have come off.

I think it would be a nice idea if we had a flag pole outside the Anchor flying the Union Flag, a tree is nice but what does it show.

They do this all over France,USA and other nations.

Lets be Proud of our country and fly the flag !

Re: Flag Pole
- Deb (24th Jun 2016 - 08:45:30)

Def agree with this

Re: Flag Pole
- liz (24th Jun 2016 - 09:13:40)

I'm sorry but I think that is a really naff idea. I would like to know what is happening with regard to the tree though!

Re: Flag Pole
- h (24th Jun 2016 - 10:32:39)

The people in the north and east of england won the out vote. It will take at least 5 years for our economy to recover, 300 points were immediately wiped from the stock market which affects everyone directly or indirectly. We are headed for reccession so forget the flag waving!

All it will mean is more work for european lawyers trying to effect a withdrawal in a legal fashion. It will not happen overnight. I think the exiter supporters will have to start facing up to the grim reality they have caused for the economy.

Re: Flag Pole
- D (24th Jun 2016 - 10:44:03)

Why no both?

Re: Flag Pole
- David McGrath (24th Jun 2016 - 11:34:45)

dear h this thread is headed flagpole not eu referendum don't try to hijack this thread, in any case that is only your opinion, another scaremonger,

Re: Flag Pole
- Sheerie Harman (24th Jun 2016 - 11:52:23)

Sorry H.

I voted out and l live in the south, so l would like to think my vote went some way in helping the out vote win.
Also these things are not always about money.
By the way The Flag Pole idea is fantastic,i'm English,British and very proud of it !

Re: Flag Pole
- Gr (24th Jun 2016 - 11:57:45)

Stock and markets have already started to go up usual knee jerk reaction to a crisis

Flag pole some where in Liphook good idea

Re: Flag Pole
- Jane Ives (24th Jun 2016 - 12:22:09)

There is a flag pole outside the Millennium Centre which has been flying the Union Jack ever since the Queen's birthday celebrations two weekends ago.

Re: Flag Pole
- de (24th Jun 2016 - 12:57:16)

... brilliant idea
lets go for it
..most of Europe has flag poles with their national flags in towns and village squares so why not here

See above.

Re: Flag Pole
- h (24th Jun 2016 - 13:24:53)

I read the first line of the first posting which was "now the shackles of the EU have come off " so forgive me for thinking there was some connection to the EU on this thread!
I think that those directly affected by the adverse financial reaction will have reason to connect the issue with finance I have been immediately adversely impacted. FLags flying will will not change the impact of leaving the EU

Re: Flag Pole
- liz (24th Jun 2016 - 13:33:09)

The markets will go down again.

The best comment I have seen today. "Young people see Brexit as a door closing and a sign that hate is winning.". Nothing to celebrate.

As for hijacking this website - the first comment was about the EU!

Re: Flag Pole
- liz (24th Jun 2016 - 14:10:00)

'Thread', sorry, not 'website'

Re: Flag Pole
- Jeremy S (24th Jun 2016 - 14:39:37)

Anyway, forget how l put it.
Can we have a Flag Pole.

Re: Flag Pole
- A (24th Jun 2016 - 15:03:11)

I'd put a big statue of Nigel Farage out front!

As for a recession....... We are due one either in or out, out it would just be another 5 or more years away. I guess the bankers actually have to work for there money now!!!!


Re: Flag Pole
- Ian (24th Jun 2016 - 15:25:16)

I'm pretty sure the first thing the Nazi party in Germany 1933 was run a flag up. Pride in your country, Yes, rampant nationalism, No. The nation has just voted to follow our own path, not copy European nations and I certainly wouldn't want to use the USA as a national role model

The public have spoken and even 'remains' like me will just have to accept the result and work hard to move this county in the new, albeit tricky, way forward.

But please lets do without petty minded jingoism and triumphalism, there are very challenging times ahead for all of us and as a nation we will need to pull together

Re: Flag Pole
- Lips (24th Jun 2016 - 16:07:46)

A tree AND a pole is a good combination.
The question is what flag? We sunbed the EU flag when we were in.
Now that we are out - the Scots want in the EU and outside of the UK, NI also going that way; so no UK and no union flag. English S.George flag? That had been hijacked by ultra-nationalists and general thugs. The flag of Hampshire? We were never given a referendum on Winchester. A Liphook flag? What would that look like? Would Bohunt Manor remain or break out from the union with Chiltlee Manor?

Re: Flag Pole
- Susan (24th Jun 2016 - 16:09:48)

Liz and H are talking absolute rubbish. My children are young and have voted to leave. When we entered into the EU in 1972 it was a Trade Agreement. This has now morphed into something else. We as a country are run by an unelected, undemocratic and unaccountable bunch of failed politicians who have their snouts in the gravy train and where no accounts are audited. I am proud that the majority has stood firm, ignored all the scaremongering, doom and gloom. No one knows what is going to happen – true, but what we do know is that if we had voted to stay in this failing economy we will be dragged down as well. I agree with Gr's post when he says "Stock and markets have already started to go up usual knee jerk reaction to a crisis"

I have no problem with immigration but we must have control over who and how many come into this country – we must take back control over our own laws – we are a Sovereign country – we must be allowed to trade with the countries such as China, India and other emerging economies without having to do this through the EU.

There will be uncertainty for a while but it will be worth it. We are a great country and will continue to be great.

Re: Flag Pole
- tony (24th Jun 2016 - 16:42:54)

Liz, I wouldn't read too much into the fact that young people don't like closing doors behind them, nothing new there. But us oldies know that it is actually the height of irresponsibility to leave your front door unlocked all day and night, we don't do that out of hate and those youngsters will grow up to see the same realities that we did.

The markets won't crash, the sky won't fall in and sorry if a few billionnaires will retreat to their tax havens, they weren't interested in our wellbeing anyway, the real shame is that the left didn't care about our genuine concerns and listen when we first expressed them, they just dismissed them, told us to keep quiet and hide our flag in shame.

So we kicked them out and now they are crying in their self pity on London Bridge, whilst we dig out our dusty British flags. We now have a chance to run our own affairs again and hopefully most young people will get involved in instead of crying about hate and locked doors and the people's concerns will be taken seriously in future!

I actually feel a bit proud of being part of that.

Re: Flag Pole
- Susan (24th Jun 2016 - 17:22:07)

I think a flag is a great idea. We are a great country and should have faith in our ability to survive and flourish outside the EU.

H and Liz are talking rubbish. My children all young have voted to leave. When we entered the EU in 1972 it was a Trading Agreement but this has morphed into something much more. We are now controlled by an undemocratic, unelected and unaccountable bunch of failed politicians who do not have their accounts audited and who do not have the UK's interests at heart. It is a gravy train and the greedy Brussels bureaucrats have their noses right in it.

I have no problem with immigration but we need to be able to control numbers and decide who we want to come into our country. We need to take back control of our laws - we are a sovereign state and we need to be able to trade with the other emerging economies without doing it through the EU. Trade with Europe by all means but we must not be controlled by Europe and thank goodness it looks as all this will come to an end.

I also agree with Gr's post. Things will settle down - it may take a little time but we will be better off. I am only glad that all the scaremongering and doom and gloom was to no avail - to all those who predicted and are still predicting dire warnings regarding the economy the truth is we don't really know. What we do know is that if we had voted to stay we would have been dragged down by a failing and unworkable EU.

Re: Flag Pole
- TP (24th Jun 2016 - 17:57:33)

Well said Tony

Re: Flag Pole
- A.R (24th Jun 2016 - 18:31:28)

What I find very sad is how vitriolic the remains have become.
Whilst the the people wanting to leave kept a mostly dignified silence, we were forced to here time after time the wishes of the people wanting to stay in.
Even now they cannot except and take defeat graciously. During an election we have to except what the majority have voted for,and as for those that don't vote that's up to them.
I for one am not gloating, it's not an up them attitude , as I am hoping each and every country in Europe has the same chance as us to vote in or out.
Whatever happens they will always be our European neighbours and allies as they always have been, its's just that we have broadened our horizons. Yes, and spending our pocket money on what we think is right for this country
Why should we not be proud of our flag, if it's good enough for the Queen to hang on her houses.....
How our flag may appear in the future, well we don't know, maybe the lovely Southern Ireland flag could be incorporated into it , but hey that's another battle
Positive thinking is now the way to go, not the doom and gloom that may never happen, unless there are those out there who want to scupper any plans to better this island.


Re: Flag Pole
- A (24th Jun 2016 - 20:15:55)

Might go and erect my pole up the Anchor tonight!!

Re: Flag Pole
- Dave (24th Jun 2016 - 20:40:54)

Great idea Jeremy, a Union Jack in the square would serve as a reminder of the great day we have witnessed in our country's history. Perhaps we could mount the flag pole on top of the proposed tree to give it some elevation (rising over time) and prominence....thoughts?

Re: Flag Pole
- wolfie smith (25th Jun 2016 - 08:00:50)

Nationalism is the last hiding place of the scoundrel.

Abraham Lincoln

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." Samuel Johnson April 1775

Re: Flag Pole
- liz (25th Jun 2016 - 09:34:07)

Susan

You are wrong. Your children may have voted to leave but 73% of 18 to 24 year olds voted to remain. Comments that they are just leaving the door open are quite insulting. It's their future that the isolationists have damaged. At least I can say with some pride that East Hampshire voted to Remain ( just). Now we all have to live with the consequences of the Leave vote. Someone also mentioned that a recession was on the cards anyway. That is not true. Rightly or wrongly a recession was not in forecasts. It is now.

Re: Flag Pole
- Katie (25th Jun 2016 - 09:53:51)

The bigger the flag & flag pole the better!
Then when my international friends come to visit we can reminisce about visiting the DMZ in Korea.

Re: Flag Pole
- liz (25th Jun 2016 - 10:42:29)

I have just read the post about those wanting to Leave keeping a dignified silence. Really? That was not my experience. People seemed quite adamant about the damage 'migrants' were doing to our country and as for those nasty bankers..... The Leave campaign was also famously splattered all over the front pages of the Sun in a very undignified manner.But it seems to have worked and people have taken Murdoch's advice. I hope I am not being 'vitriolic' but I am upset that a country I thought I knew has made what is in my view an uninformed (in many cases), emotional, unwise and potentially damaging decision.

Re: Flag Pole
- D (25th Jun 2016 - 11:04:19)

Talk about poor losers!

This is democracy at work. Accept the decision and use your energies to make things work rather than continue with your negative comments.

If you are so unhappy you can still move to another EU country!

Re: Flag Pole
- de (25th Jun 2016 - 11:30:35)

this thread is about having a flag pole in liphook square

.....
I think it would be a nice idea if we had a flag pole outside the Anchor flying the Union Flag, a tree is nice but what does it show.

They do this all over France,,USA and other nations.

Lets be Proud of our country and fly the flag !

Can we please leave to EU issue to the EU thread .... or maybe it's time to move on .... the nation has voted and the decision made

Re: Flag Pole
- Susan (25th Jun 2016 - 13:00:13)

Liz

There has been vitriol on both sides. I don't know if you heard John Major on the radio last week, a man who I always thought as well balanced and fair minded. What he said was undiluted vitriol. No you are not being vitriolic when you say and I quote "I am upset that a country I thought I knew has made what is in my view an uninformed (in many cases), emotional, unwise and potentially damaging decision". However I feel that in my view your view is one that is patronising and judgemental with no real evidence. You say that in many cases those who voted to leave were uninformed – I am sure I am not alone when I say that I find comments like that incredibly insulting. What evidence do you have to justify that? Yes I am emotional – I love my country and I want what is best for it and that is not to be in the grip of a group of a bunch of unelected and self interested bureaucrats. Ditto where is your evidence that the decision to leave is potentially damaging. You don't know what is going to happen, not unless you have a crystal ball, and nor do I, so do not pretend you do. No one knows if they are honest – as we have seen countless times forecasts can be wrong, research can be wrong, polls often are. Let's just wait and see. We live in a democratic country and the majority of the UK have voted to leave – that is what democracy is all about and thank God for it.

Re: Flag Pole
- lucy (25th Jun 2016 - 13:45:20)

If you believe the Times, Guardian and Observer, the consensus is that those who would be directly adversly affected by leaving, those people who could see the adverse effects, most voted to remain, those people who voted to leave were those who had nothing to impact upon their jobs or finances. Unfortunately there has already been a downgrading of our financial rating as a country, so investors will have no faith in our economy. We operate now in a global marketplace like it or not. A flagpole will not help when petrol goes up next week because of the dip in value of the pound.

Re: Flag Pole
- Dave (25th Jun 2016 - 14:55:55)

well lucy, if you want to continue to be European and feel uncomfortable here move to Brussels, England does not need Europe it needs us! The brexiteers will be proved right in due course, Holland will be the next ones out! More will follow. Anyway that's enough this is about the British flag flying in LIPHOOK and I agree that that should happen.

Re: Flag Pole
- Andrew (25th Jun 2016 - 15:59:46)

Dave,

The statement that Europe needs us more than we need them is utter nonsense, the UK isn’t a Superpower, it hasn’t been since the Empire and it’s not even a contender now or ever will be.

Germany is a bigger economy and the clear No 1 in Europe and given the events of the last 48 hours Britain has given up 2nd place to France, do you really think they need us more than we need them? Sure they and the EU would “Like” us to remain, but “need” I don’t think so.

Even if EU (The 2nd largest economy on the world, very close to the 1st) does fall apart Germany, France whom are bigger than us will also leave and so enter the silliness in which we have now voted for yet still do better than us because they are stronger. Remember, if you thought leave was the best idea and it turns out to be, then the other big boys can play the same card and beat us at it having learned all the mistakes we made in sticking our necks out first.

This isn’t the end of the EU, sure it give’s those wanting out some leverage but it also gives the EU a clear road map to prevent it happening so the jury is out.

If it does all fall to bits then don’t think we will be unaffected, another economic nightmare of cuts bigger than before will occur, the same cuts that influenced the leave campaigners and allowed this to happen will come to finish us off.

So don’t go around feeding people the statement that Europe needs us more than we do them, sure Latvia, Slovenia, Romania etc might want us more, but were are far from the biggest fish in the EU pond. If the EU survives this which is utterly probable, then Italy, Spain, Poland could all pass the UK and join the true big boys Germany and France, with us excluded and forgotten.

Re: Flag Pole
- liz (25th Jun 2016 - 16:44:37)

You are not a poor loser if you stick to your well researched views even though the majority (by a very small margin) don't agree with you. You do not like your country any less because you voted to Remain in the EU in fact quite the opposite. I agree there has been vitriol on both sides - I was just objecting to the claim that the Leave campaign had kept a dignified distance (!). I'm sorry if some find my views insulting but someone has admitted on here that their Leave vote was emotional. I am hoping my vote was rational.

As for the childish response that if you don't like it you can leave. I have no wish to leave a country I care deeply about but many large companies will not feel the same. Particular many in one of the key drivers of our economy - finance. Companies now see Frankfurt or even Dublin as the gateway to Europe rather than London. We will not be the fifth largest economy for long. These are the things we should be worried about.

Re: Flag Pole
- Dave (25th Jun 2016 - 19:42:47)

andrew thanks for your comment, it is duly noted and ignored, 52 percent of the vote is a democratic decision, I respect your view ,time will tell, at least it was a democratic vote by British people they have spoken and the government are respecting that.dont underestimate this countries standing in the whole world, not just Europe.I appreciate your input.

Re: Flag Pole
- Jeremy S (25th Jun 2016 - 20:39:02)

All l wanted was a flag pole.
Shouldn't have mentioned the EU, sorry for that.
Just a nice white pole in a prominent position so we can fly the Union Flag !

Re: Flag Pole
- Andrew (26th Jun 2016 - 01:14:42)

“Noted and ignored” lovely retort Dave.

The word democracy isn’t the same as Just, Fair or Equal, it’s just a name for a system where a governments power is vested in the people by a system of representation. It does not suddenly cover all of us in a veil of righteousness just because we are participants.

Whilst the numbers are correct, using the word “democratically” does not elevate you above everything. The people have the power and yes the people spoke, but by 11:15am on Friday the 2 central reasons of influence for the leave vote were backtracked by those that filled the minds of the 52% A. 350m a week to NHS was denied by those whom promised it, Farage and B. Hannan retracts the claim that leaving the EU will reduce immigration.

Those that “democratically” came out on top were fed lies, so I ask you what good is democracy when your leader’s and potential leaders gets to brainwash you with what you want to hear just to get your vote and backtrack immediately out of it within hours whilst the country falls to s**t around us.

The whole world is under the control of people whom think their subjects are idiots, the method of control has different names, in our case it’s called democracy, i.e we get to tick 1 out of 2 or 3 option boxes once every few years, whoop de doo! Utter freedom the once a 4 year box hey!

Despite the freedom to tick, there isn’t a control or checks being made on how were being told what to tick.

If the vote was cast again two days later the result would be different, you know, everyone knows it, but everyone is just to bloody minded to admit it. Standard British, colors have been nailed to the post and we are going to lump it now.

It was not even a binding referendum, it was advisory, it could have been ignored, but Cameron the idiot buried that option with the resignation.

Re: Flag Pole
- Dave (26th Jun 2016 - 06:55:59)

hi again Andrew, you seem to have a real hang up about this result,have you considered counselling or maybe going to live in Scotland! Only joking! So you don't agree with a flag in the square then!?

Re: Flag Pole
- A.R (26th Jun 2016 - 07:52:32)

Some people are extremely sore losers. Andrew for one, should learn how to take defeat ( or other people's wishes ) with decorum.
As to having another referendum, I believe the brexit vote would be higher as I know some people did not vote due to being made to feel guilty. Now they can see how the pendulum fell I do believe they would be braver.
Andrew may feel it to have been an injust result, but a result it was for those that voted that way. That is how our democracy works. It does not work if you keep going till you get what you want, above all others, there is too much of that in the world as others from repressed countries would tell you.
As for saying we fell for the lies, it beggars beyond belief that you have temerity to say that. Your truths are the right truths are they? We all heard the same arguments , lies and truths on both sides.

Re: Flag Pole
- Lips (26th Jun 2016 - 09:22:30)

Good arguments, but wrong thread!
Now that Scotland and NI are so intent on demolishing the UK and the Union Jack, now that St George's flag had been identified with the far right, since we never had a say (referendum) on the flag of Hampshire, now that we are not in the EU:
What would be the appropriate flag to wave on that pole?

Re: Flag Pole
- Lips (26th Jun 2016 - 09:38:17)

Good arguments, but wrong thread!
Now that Scotland and NI are so intent on demolishing the UK and the Union Jack, now that St George's flag had been identified with the far right, since we never had a say (referendum) on the flag of Hampshire, now that we are not in the EU:
What would be the appropriate flag to wave on that pole?

Re: Flag Pole
- lucy (26th Jun 2016 - 10:02:21)

I have no intention of leaving the country; I found that comment insulting.
The HSBC bank has announced that 1000 jobs are being relocated from London to Paris, this is just the start of it? What is upsetting that those people who voted for brexit blamed the EU for things which have nothing to do with the EU. If there is a recovery due to trading with non EU nations it will take many years to establish. The exit from the EU will take at least 2 years to achieve, during which time everything will stay the same, or decline.

Re: Flag Pole
- liz (26th Jun 2016 - 10:12:19)

Well East Hampshire (of which we are part) voted to Remain. How about the Welsh flag as theirs was the very strong leave vote?!

In a democratic society the wishes of the majority will be carried out and that is what is happening. Because others don't agree doesn't make them 'poor losers'. It's not a football match.

Re: Flag Pole
- Ian (26th Jun 2016 - 10:20:48)

Appreciate this will be a controversial opinion but I believe referendums whilst democratic rarely produce a result that is right for the country. The general public are like children, they often do not know what is best for them and strong parents, like a strong government should, will make decisions for them that perhaps are not popular but are for the best.
God help us if we continue to have weak governments not prepared to govern and wanting to appeal to the unwashed masses (no offence intended, I myself vote once every 5 years and then expect the elected government to make decisions for me, if I don't like what they do I will vote accordingly at the next election).

For example, if we had a referendum on the return of the death penalty we would almost certainly see it come back but on this issue and quite rightly our politicians are prepared to defy public opinion and keep it abolished (although no doubt some will be clamouring for its return as a sign of us now reasserting our sovereignty whilst forgetting it was abolished pre EU.)

All that being said, for right or wrong, the decision has been made to leave the EU so we do need to rally round as a nation for our children's sake to make this country remain a great place to live in.

Re: Flag Pole
- OutragedAndAshamed (26th Jun 2016 - 11:14:18)

Yes, lets put Farage's statue outside Anchor pub to remind us to start the treason proceedings.

Re: Flag Pole
- de (26th Jun 2016 - 13:21:13)

THE PROPOSAL IS TO PUT UP A FLAG POLE IN THE SQUARE

can we just have a in favour or disagree

.... and put the world to right on the EU thread

I agree - lets have a flag pole

Re: Flag Pole
- Andrew (26th Jun 2016 - 15:45:48)

Dave switches from engaging in his subject to light hearted humour, classic sign of backing out for he has nothing left.

The original poster started with EU so EU it is, it's not the wrong thread at all.

And no to flag pole, you have seen the trouble that flags and flag poles have caused in Northern Ireland in the recent years, the U.K. Is now equally divided and any flag is just going to be an argument.

Get a tree.

Re: Flag Pole
- Jeremy S (26th Jun 2016 - 15:54:52)

Speaking to a nice Frenchman today and they have flag poles everywhere.
He also added he hopes France comes out of the EU.






Re: Flag Pole
- D (26th Jun 2016 - 20:30:00)

I was in Belgium a week before the vote and not one person to whom I spoke had a good word to say for the EU.

Re: Flag Pole
- Rob (26th Jun 2016 - 23:00:36)

No Flag pole and No Flag thank you very much, Proud to be British but I don't want everyone within 30 miles laughing at us thank you very much. Liphook isn't some sort of National front town, were alot smarter than that, and given east Hampshire voted remain the honorable thing we could do is fly a EU flag... after all it was the democratic majority in our own neighborhood wanted.

Yes your neighbors voted remain, so if you had any class at all you might respect you neighbors rather than go all National front on everyone. East Hampshire isn't anti EU, its a democratic fact, how dare you suggest we now fly the union jack, yes its our flag and we all love it, but your using it for a different national front and racist purpose.

The minute you put up a flag pole and raise our national flag is the same minute the village is seen as a racist village, full of skinheads.

Fly the union out your window, on your car's etc, but dont make us look like idiots by doing it in the village.

No pole, no flag

Re: Flag Pole
- Mick (27th Jun 2016 - 00:25:59)

Nonsense, I married a European, and I have European relatives prior to the marriage yet am 100% British, white as well if that impresses you, I have family and friends in half a dozen European countries and the resounding message is “Whilst we would like the UK to remain, now they have left were not throwing them any more rope” and every one of them still believes in Europe 100%.

They have given up on the UK, they tried their best to help the UK despite its crap attitude to them so now their happy for the UK to reap its own whirlwind, in fact "laughing stock" is basically the translation I hear from them all the time.

Re: Flag Pole
- joc (27th Jun 2016 - 14:11:14)

It would appear that a flag pole in the square is quite a popular idea, but which flag to fly is the question. However, there has been no mention of what the cost would be to erect a flagpole. If dog owners were to be charged 1p a go surely it would soon cover the cost. I think if this was implemented there would be calls for a second referendum!!!!!!

Re: Flag Pole
- Lips (27th Jun 2016 - 14:52:55)

Thanks for mentioning the cost of it. Not just erecting a pole but maintaining a presentable flag against the element, accidents and vandalism.
Perhaps the Parish and District councils should be given a chance to fly their (yes, ours too) flag according to their share of the funding?

Yes, talk about similar countries where locals debate flying their national or UE flag: it is the norm to fly both EU and national flag proudly and peacefully side by side. Not something the UK had managed.

Re: Flag Pole
- lucy (27th Jun 2016 - 22:01:29)

The flag is flying at the Millenium Hall. Surely unnecessary to pay for another flag outside a public house?

Re: Flag Pole
- tony (29th Jun 2016 - 09:33:18)

Driving through the Square today I thought how nice it would be to have a white flagpole flying our national flag, you often see them in special locations, now we are officially the gateway to the South Downs National Park, the second biggest in the UK, it would be uplifting and fitting, not just for us, but for visitors. Anyone who thinks that is racist is an idiot.

Re: Flag Pole
- h (29th Jun 2016 - 12:16:08)

Hi Tony, where did you get your info from that we are now tge official gateway to the Park? If that were the case! the SDNP would not have put funding into Midhurst for that purpose? Midhurst is where the nearest information office is for the Park? If that were true then we should be flying the flag for the SDNP outside the Anchor!

Re: Flag Pole
- tony (29th Jun 2016 - 15:16:12)

Hi h, it's been said a few times, although I used it tongue in cheek. GVI, used it on their plans to build on Bohunt, they even marked the exact spot, somewhere along the Portsmouth Road between the Square and Bohunt Manor.

At least they offered to supply a gate, but if they change that to flagpole, I'm putty in their hands.

In reality we must be one of many gates between Winchester and Eastbourne!

Re: Flag Pole
- tony (29th Jun 2016 - 17:27:41)

Also just a quick mention that the Canadian and British flags flying next to each other by the Memorial bridge today on London Road look lovely and that's not a political point, they were raised to commemorate Canada day and the fallen Canadian soldiers.

Re: Flag Pole
- h (29th Jun 2016 - 23:10:28)

And we must not forget that Bramshott was the place the sick Canadians were, as a lot from the Spanish Flu whilst in training in Bramshott Camp
in the First World War, and sent back to to recover from injury in France.

Re: Flag Pole
- Jeremy S (30th Jun 2016 - 07:49:22)

Can we have a flag pole or not.
Just a thought fly the Union flag with the Canadian flag in a prominent position.
Canadians gave their lives for freedom and democracy, maybe we could as a village expand our connection them.
Any ideas

Re: Flag Pole
- Paul Robinson (30th Jun 2016 - 08:33:21)

Yesterday was Canada Day when every year the Junior School and many others gather at the Radford Bridge where both the Union and Canadian flags are still flown in remembrance of the many Canadian troops who passed across the bridge on their way to the Western Front, many of them never to return.

The following church service and reception at the Church Centre is an opportunity for the village as a whole and the children in particular to give thanks for the Canadian troops sacrifice.

Paul Robinson

Re: Flag Pole
- Ian S (30th Jun 2016 - 08:52:28)

The land belongs to Green King, ask them, but personally nothing against a flag but that spot is crying out for another tree, its part of Liphook's heritage. Shame its not going to be a Canadian Maple though, like the idea of reinforcing our local ties with Canada

Re: Flag Pole
- h (30th Jun 2016 - 09:12:21)

There is a collection at the moment to donate to the victims of the Canadian fires I think that the Parish Office can take donations. There will be a cheque handed over I believe after the ceremony on Canada Day.

Re: Flag Pole
- liz (30th Jun 2016 - 09:15:36)

Jeremy

We already have the Union flag and the Canadian flag flying together in Liphook. How many more do you want?

Re: Flag Pole
- Jeremy S (30th Jun 2016 - 12:07:14)

Loads if that's ok,just as long as were flying our flag.

Re: Flag Pole
- H (30th Jun 2016 - 12:42:31)

Just because there are less flags than elsewhere does not signify anything? The habit of hanging flags out of windows too I cannot understand. The minute we start speaking to each other we can tell where we are from surely. Just because I do not fly flags does not make me less patriotic than someone who does fly a flag? I havd no need to be reminded that I live in a particular country, I know that already!

Re: Flag Pole
- Rachael (30th Jun 2016 - 13:30:57)

Just look at all those lovely English Supporters at the recent football tournament waving the George Cross as they terrorised the locals, patriotic flag waving, lovely!!

Re: Flag Pole
- S (1st Jul 2016 - 16:31:33)

I think it is a bad idea. A tree is fine and a flag pole in my view is just a waste of time and money. Who will pay for it, maintain it..etc. I think it will just end up looking tatty. A far better idea would be to get behind the community projects already established, Liphook in Bloom, Carnival etc. Better use of time and money.

Only my opinion and nothing at all to do with the vote.

Re: Flag Pole
- Dave (1st Jul 2016 - 22:05:54)

We need to make a decision yes or no re the flag (and pole) in the square. There is no doubt Jeremy is passionate about the flag idea, as are many of the village. Perhaps we throw a Welsh flag into the argument, part of Britain and doing us proud in Europe. Good idea?

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