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Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Editor (16th May 2016 - 20:08:07) Reports of an armed robbery in Liphook at Lloyds bank earlier today. Armed police in attendance and 1 man treated by ambulance. Awaiting further details.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Basil Broiolas (16th May 2016 - 20:10:12) Posted at 17:18 I have just spoken to the police at the site. No one from the Bank is injured. A member of the public was hurt but is okay now. You would not expect that in our village to occur. The important thing is that no one was seriously hurt. The perpetrator is still at large. Basil Briolas

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - George (16th May 2016 - 20:18:48) Hope everyone is ok,.....Basil you say Perpetrator, so assume this was 1 individual?, any vehicle?, run off? in a particular direction? Thanks

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Editor (16th May 2016 - 20:29:19) Some photographs can be found on Facebook .

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - g renouf (16th May 2016 - 20:43:51) hope everyone caught up in this is ok maybe shops cctv will help piece things together crime doesnt worry about where it happens

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Amy (16th May 2016 - 20:51:48) Air ambulance landed in the field next to the church centre, in front of our house. So sad it's happened so close to us but my son was able to watch it land and then take off again, made his day especially when they were waving to him as they took off Hope they catch the people very quickly

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Lips (16th May 2016 - 21:03:33) This was historically the village of Liphook, now a sprawling commuter belt town, struggling to keep up with increased population and the new 'culture' that is brought with it. Lots more diverse residents yet far less facilities, amenities and services.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - The Joy (16th May 2016 - 21:03:33) Apparently two chaps, one with a knife and one with a pellet gun. Where is the nearest police station these days?

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Passfield resident (16th May 2016 - 22:21:44) Heard sirens & saw a helicopter go over at tea time (Passfield), assumed it was an RTA. So incredibly sad & I hope the staff & witnesses get all the support they need to recover. God bless our little Village, where did it all go wrong :(

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - H (16th May 2016 - 22:37:04) Lips, what the heck has the cultural make up of the population of Liphook got to do with it ! You think they were local? Give me a break. We are rich pickings. .easy access from the A3. Quick getaway in and out. This isn't the first time and won't be the last. Co op has been done over numerous times ...by young WHITE MEN . Not to mention the old Jet garage

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Liphook Resident (16th May 2016 - 22:45:58) Hope everyone is ok, but please don't blame the modern culture. Lloyds Liphook was the victim of an armed raid about 40 years ago.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Paul Robinson (16th May 2016 - 22:48:24) Who still thinks that CCTV is an invasion of privacy? Ask the Lloyds Bank customer who was shot in the face. Paul Robinson

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - lucy (16th May 2016 - 23:18:29) Pray that everyone involved will make a good recovery, I do not think that the size of an area can be blamed for crime, more crime is committed in wealthy areas, Friday is always thought of as rich pickings as far as Bank robbers are concerned as historically banks held more money on a Friday to pay out weekly wages. Times have changed and method of payments too! Do not forget Sainsburys in Grayshott was held up at gunpoint recently, they are a far smaller community than Liphook. We are no longer a "small village", there are nearly 10k people living in the area I think, although I am sure I will be corrected! Recorded Crime is still lower than in London.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - M (17th May 2016 - 01:17:05) Lips ... What exactly do you mean by "new culture" ?? Could you explain in more detail !!

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Lips (17th May 2016 - 05:51:49) 'H', I could perhaps explain to you how the size and make-up of a local community can affect vulnerability to crime - once you might have calmed down. Let's hope the event will not be the next nail in the coffin of the last of our village banks. Local facilities keep disappearing - we used to have more local police deterring local crime, we used to...

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Natalie (17th May 2016 - 07:49:41) Well said Paul Robinson!

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - liz (17th May 2016 - 08:26:06) Paul I'm sure the bank has CCTV and it doesn't seem to have been a discouragement and unfortunately didn't prevent someone being being hurt. I have no objection to CCTV in shopping areas etc. but in every street it would be excessive and could easily be misused. The robbery in Liphook is very sad but has not left me unduly concerned for my own safety ......despite some people scaremongering!

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Ian (17th May 2016 - 08:27:54) Lips, once again, and no doubt you will hide behind an anti PC stance, you spout your predudicial (and some might say racist) nonsense. You are of course free to contribute your unpleasant rants, that is freedom of expression but don't be surprised when others express offence and contempt of your contributions

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - lucy (17th May 2016 - 09:47:29) I think we are getting off the point here. In one breath, people talk about Liphook as a "nice little friendly village" and then the discussion seems to go onto wanting to turn it into a Wood Green shopping Mall with security guards and CCTV. I think that a) CCTV cameras can easily be vandalised and put out of action and B) security guards have to be employed to actually moniter the tapes and be ready to spring into action to catch the perpetrator. All CCTV cameras would lead to would be all people who are wearing a scarf and hood to keep warm being mistaken for a perpetrator of crime. I think that most criminals who that find a bank or outlet has CCTV would just wear a face covering before they robbed the place. When I lived in London many years ago I was burgled 4 times in 2 years that is why I moved out of london. Touch wood I have only been burgled once here. I think life is different these days and even if you lived in an an expensive upmarket area you could be a victim of crime.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - joc (17th May 2016 - 10:06:23) Well said Ian. Lips, we are all aware that you are basically a racialistic, xenophobic zealot who attempts to conceal the true meaning of your feelings by trying to appear intelluctual. Why not just say what you mean or keep your opinions to yourself and give the rest of us a break.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Paul Robinson (17th May 2016 - 10:44:28) I feel sure that the CCTV installed in Lloyds Bank will have recorded the incident in question but the armed gunman made his escape through the streets of Liphook and, as far as I know, is still at large. I feel sure that the individual concerned would have removed his disguise in order to avoid drawing attention to himself. CCTV street cameras may have recorded this and afforded the police a better chance to identify him. Paul Robinson

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Resident (17th May 2016 - 11:30:38) I think the point we all need to see as concerning is that the amount of crime - burglaries, car thefts etc - happening in Liphook seems to have increased dramatically in the last 12-18 months. The number of incidents reported on this very site is at a higher level than I can remember seeing. These things are happening in broad daylight and in areas with high levels of both pedestrian and vehicle traffic, yet the thieves are undeterred. It seems that they know that there is no police presence in Liphook and that in many cases when (if) the Police do turn up (even if you call 999) they have come from many miles away. Plenty of time for the perpetrators of any crime to be long gone. That is with the exception of Carnival night when the offer of free entertainment and presumably some nice easy overtime means you can't move without seeing any. I have been told that Liphook has a 'beat' police person. Has anyone ever seen them? By beat do they mean driving through occasionally? Inevitably criticising the Police will lead to 'they do the best they can with the budget they've got' etc etc BUT it is not good enough. It is sad that the person who was burgled 4 times in London seems forced to accept that only being burgled once in Liphook is ok. Whether or not Liphook is a nice place, a low crime, safe area statistically it is still absolutely unacceptable to be burgled at all and we shouldn't have to count ourselves lucky if it only happens once!

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - tony (17th May 2016 - 11:46:50) In London the ubiquitous street CCTV does a great job, handing out millions of parking tickets every year. This is one of the best: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261734/Moneybox-junction-The-West-London-traffic-light-trap-rakes-2-7m-year But they were put there, apparently, to stop muggings. They haven't caught one yet because like all other cameras the operators are busily trained on the passing cars to earn their commission! Be careful what you wish for, Big Brother will play upon your paranoia and happily accommodate you. As for muggers, like someone said, they just wear a scarf! I think burglars have worked that trick out as well, plus no commission for catching a mugger.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Terry (17th May 2016 - 11:53:39) Historically this was the hamlet of Liphook, Bramshott is historically the village because it has the parish church within it's boundary, nor is Liphook a “sprawling commuter belt town” as described by the same poster. The distinction between a village and a town is never based on the population size or the number of dwellings. The parish population in 2011 was 8291. However, if the current population of Liphook is in excess of 10,000 it is now classed as a Urban Village as opposed to previously a Rural Village, it is not a town, sprawling or otherwise.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - BASIL BRIOLAS (17th May 2016 - 12:12:24) Hi George When I spoke to the police officer it was mentioned one individual.Off course they couldn't give me much details.As an ex-military soldier and New Zealand Corrections officer I was trained to observe suspicious activity/body language etc.I did give some detailed description of a person I had seen on numerous occasions checking out the Bank I observed when going to do my Banking around 1:00 pm most days. I also had my wife inform the staff about the suspicious person just to be aware.This doesn't mean it is the person in question. I do hope they find the perpetrator/s. Keep your eyes peeled as they say;"a community that works together is a strong resilient one". Many thanks to all of you have a shared your concerns and it shows people do care. Wishing you all a good week. Basil

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - tony (17th May 2016 - 12:38:53) Terry, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the question of whether Liphook is a village or a town is purely down to the council to decide. If they choose to call us a town they will have to allocate more resources including police, but pretend we're still a village and they don't. They can stick 100,000 people here and still call us a village, but it's just playing with words.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - liz (17th May 2016 - 13:35:35) Town or village, Liphook is certainly sprawling nowadays - and its about to get worse. Despite that I'm not panicked into believing we need wall to wall CCTV coverage. I do think an increased police presence would be more cost effective and I think the populations size merits it. Does anyone know how long it took the police to arrive at the bank after the alarm was raised?

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Lips (17th May 2016 - 13:59:22) Tony: I totally agree, what matters is how urban the place feels, how many more refer to it as a town recently, not the council's definition. joc: You need no break - you are free NOT to read my postings just as you are free to twist and misinterpret them the way you have done. Ian: You may brand me what you wish. What seemed to have got you excited is NOT written in my posting - it is in your mind; you seem to be on the lookout for opinions that are not popular or indeed are politically incorrect. I am not surprised people will express offence and upset when they misread my postings, let them...

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Terry (17th May 2016 - 14:36:32) tony. Quite simply the Council would not be able to just “stick 100,000 people here” because considerable extra housing would have to be allocated for the purpose, at present, as a village Liphook is protected by building limits, for more housing to be permitted the District Council would have to propose to give the village “town status” and instigate a consultation process, they cannot arbitrarily decide to turn Liphook village into a town any more than the people who refer to Liphook as a town can. It really is in Liphook's best interest to remain as it is, a village with a history dating back some 600 years or so, rather younger than it's “elder”, Bramshott. I suspect the danger time for Liphook will be sometime in the future, when the outer limits of Bordon meet the outer limits of Liphook!

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Julian (17th May 2016 - 15:08:23) ... and the bank robbery?

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - lucy (17th May 2016 - 15:10:02) The district council can only refuse new housing on certain grounds. There is now a local plan, and by giving permission for 330 houses at lowsley farm then the council will only allocate smaller what is called "windfall sites". The inspector who refused Chiltley would not have been able to point to the fact of us having enough houses allocated already at Lowsley Farm if that did not already have permission. For some reason the CIL contributions in our area are far higher for a developer to pay than in the south of the district, that may put developers off now! I think though even one policeman here may not have been enough to have deterred a bank robber. Presumably they were even parked in the lloyds bank car park, I do not know enough detail to say they were roaming around the streets with a gun masked or unmasked! I would like to see all guns banned even air guns and rifles.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Big A (17th May 2016 - 15:33:27) This is a great thread, 1. We talked about the robbery 2. Housing 3. Locals talking rubbish. 4. I’m sure I saw Elvis Presley in Sainsbury’s 5. Now i'm confused

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - liz (17th May 2016 - 15:40:15) Big A I expect it doesn't take much to confuse you!

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Big A (18th May 2016 - 10:49:11) You got that right Liz

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - James Pusey (20th May 2016 - 13:18:12) Officers have arrested two men after an attempted armed robbery at Lloyds Bank in Liphook on Monday, May 16. Officers were called at 4:10pm to reports that two men had demanded cash. 46 year-old Jonathan Pay of Liphook Road in Lindford has been charged with two counts of attempted robbery, one count of possesion of an imitation firearm with intent to cause fear of violence, and one count of wounding with intent. He has been remanded to appear at Basingstoke Magistrates Court today (Friday, May 20). A 31 year-old British man of no fixed address has been bailed as part of the investigation until July 13 pending further enquiries. James Pusey (Police, Corporate Communications, Hampshire and the Isle of Wight)

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - liz (20th May 2016 - 13:30:18) Well done to our police. Just one query though, if it was an imitation firearm, did the Lloyds Bank customer really get shot in the face?

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Keith (20th May 2016 - 15:00:13) I think when used in a crime such as this, and given that the person committing the burglary presumably wants people to believe that the rifle/pistol is a full rifle/pistol rather than an air rifle/pistol, the air rifle/pistol would be regarded as an imitation firearm - so the use of the term imitation does not mean someone can't be shot with air pellets (which appears from anecdotal accounts to be what happened in this case). Incidentally the use of an air rifle/pistol in this way carries with it the possibility of a considerable time in jail, so I would expect this case to be passed on to a crown court by the magistrates, so that a suitably serious prison term could be imposed (assuming of course that the person currently being held for this crime is found guilty).

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - liz (20th May 2016 - 16:35:46) Thanks Keith. Not pleasant for the victim or any of those involved I realise, very glad this man has been caught.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - lucy (20th May 2016 - 16:39:05) Well done for the arrest, we are forgettimg that in earlier reports the second man was carrying a knife? Perhaps the injury resulted from the knife and not from the gun imitation or real air gun? I am sure the full details will come out in court. After all if there were no injury at all the customer would not have been taken to hospital.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - D (21st May 2016 - 13:33:17) No fixed abode and bailed - I'm sure he'll turn up !!! Hampshire Police - what a Mickey Mouse outfit.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - AS (30th May 2016 - 18:22:47) D, Unless there is sufficient evidence to charge there is no choice but to release on bail. Don't blame Hants Police as they're only working within the legislation. Don't worry proposed changes to the bail act will see less arresting so being out on bail won't be a huge issue.

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - Editor (3rd Nov 2016 - 13:27:15) Pay was jailed for 16-and-a-half years at Winchester Crown Court. Pay, of Liphook Road, Lindford, had previously admitted wounding with intent, having an imitation firearm with intent and two counts of attempted robbery. See Liphook Lloyds Bank robbery: Gun-wielding raider jailed

Re: Armed robbery @ Lloyds bank in Liphook - bob heath (3rd Nov 2016 - 14:32:44) Great result , another scumbag off the streets.... streets of liphook more importantly....

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