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Drug dealing? - CROL (2nd Oct 2015 - 20:42:21) 5 foot 7/8, white male, looks 16/17, long ginger hair often tied back, with medium build and always seen on the Haslemere road side of Radford. I have witnessed the possession, use and dealing of cannabis from him and various others, but I feel he is the main one to fear as he does the dealing. I have contacted the local police, they are aware of the situation and persons description, therefore are awaiting a call to catch in the action and give required punishments. It is despicable for this behaviour to be in a PUBLIC park with many dog walkers, children and residents nearby. Although they are off the path and think they're out of view, they are not and it has to be stopped. If anyone sees a boy of this description with suspicious behaviour, please do not hesitate to call 101 and inform the local police of the whereabouts you witnessed the action, and do so immediately! We must put a stop to this. Many thanks, Concerned resident of Liphook.

Re: Drug dealing? - Not so crol (2nd Oct 2015 - 21:24:13) Personally I'm more concerned about the drinkers who leave their cans and bottles all over the park and the dog owners who don't clean up their dogs mess both of which I think are much more anti social.

Re: Drug dealing? - john (2nd Oct 2015 - 23:08:34) I disagree, drug taking can lead to all kinds of other social problems including burglary, addiction, theft, death by overdose, a drain on social services and the taxpayer, horrible mood swings, paranoia and misery for all the family. Surely not less of a crime than dog mess?

Re: Drug dealing? - C (3rd Oct 2015 - 07:56:33) John , you've just recognised an alcoholic with your comments, living at the back of Radford Park I am truely aware of the noise , mess and general abuse that adults and teenagers who have left the pub or who are not old enough to go to the pub and have been sold alcohol illegally do ... The drain on society and resources are the ignorant drunken idiots that damage, leave litter and scare local residents not those who have had a sneaky smoke...strange how our society will tolerate illegal selling and drinking of alcohol and all our problems are down to drug use , how about one sip of cheap lager leads to years of dependency on strong spirits ...people need to be better informed not just lay society's problems on a few and believe all they read in the red tops or the daily mail .

Re: Drug dealing? - not so crol (3rd Oct 2015 - 09:00:45) Im my humble opinion all the problems you cite are of more relevance to alcohol abuse.Our A&E units are not full every weekend with people who are stoned they are full of drunks. I have never been threatened walking down the street by somebody with a joint in their hand whereas I have on more than one occasion by drunks. I would much prefer to come across a group of young adults getting stoned than getting drunk. The trouble is we will never have a reasoned debate in this country as the scaremongering is too deeply entrenched. I have no doubt that for a small number of PRE DESPOSED people cannabis can have an effect on their mental health but the same can be said for many other substances and more importantly social circumstances.

Re: Drug dealing? - CROL (3rd Oct 2015 - 12:38:47) You all make good points, but is it really acceptable for this to be happening in a PUBLIC area with the presence of children?! At the end of the day, we can attempt to stop many problems and to stop this male and his friends is a good place to start. Illegal activity of any sort is not acceptable. If you see any suspicious activity, please dial 101 as soon as possible and report where and when.

Re: Drug dealing? - john (3rd Oct 2015 - 12:46:19) How do you know what drugs they are dealing? could be more than you think? I have seen drug users when they get older, they are just as unhealthy as alcoholics. Just because someone takes drugs does not mean they do not drink as well. Car accidents and crime happen when people are under the influence of alcohol or drugs, drug taking is not always so innocent, yes lives are destroyed by addiction to both. I looked at the original post which was that dog mess was a bigger crime than drug dealing.

Re: Drug dealing? - Lips (3rd Oct 2015 - 22:01:14) I object to any illegal activity anywhere and any commercial activity in our park. However, I do side with those pointing out the bias against cannabis. Not just alcohol, but use of mobile phones can be described as addictive and is the biggest cause of road fatalities - yet we are strongly encouraged to buy and use. My point is EDUCATION on all accounts, HIDE NOTHING from our children and review ill-thought LEGISLATIONS. Treat cannabis and similar substances square-on with frank openness - equally as we should deal with any other consumption issues, say eating too much sugar. Away with the ill-founded taboos and scaremongering.

Re: Drug dealing? - john (4th Oct 2015 - 00:12:17) How do you know what the drugs are? could be Heroin Cocaine, Mollies Meth anything? Why assume you know? studies have linked drug taking to all kinds of illnesses in later life schizophrenia, MS to name but a few. People only believe the research which confirms their own theories and research is being done all the time, and not just by the daily Mail!

Re: Drug dealing? - George (4th Oct 2015 - 17:18:13) I posted a while ago about Drug dealing at Bohunt school, but sadly the editor decided not to post it live. Our Kids are in a top school in the county, and Drug dealing and taking was happening, right before their very eyes, and they knew nothing. Kids are snorting Mcat off the toilet seats, selling all types of illegal drugs, and believe it or not Paracetamol! Do i have proof of this,..no,but....a friend whose child was involved in this did, and reported it to Bohunt, and now Bohunt have tightened their securities, and taking regular searches. A lad from another area, approaches the children outside the Anchor, and bullies them into selling drugs for them! Many parents know this has been happening in the past, but maybe with Bohunts tighter network, it now changing hands outside of the school.

Re: Drug dealing? - CROL (4th Oct 2015 - 19:12:49) I am now aware of where abouts the stated dealer lives, and have informed relevant persons, which they may act upon when relevant. Any suspicious action seen by a person of this description must be reported to 101 whether it be in Radford or any where else in Liphook. Behaviour like this is unacceptable and will be stopped.

Re: Drug dealing? - Deb (5th Oct 2015 - 13:13:18) Shocking absolutely shocking to read this about bohunt school omg I don't know what to think And also someone selling drugs from outside the anchor and pressuring the kids to sell on oh my gosh I thought my children be safer in Liphook Thought of it as a nice little village I know drugs etc are everywhere but no not Liphook :( saddens me My little one has got a few years before they go to bohunt but that's really put me off sending there but hopefully the school / pupils can only get better :)))

Re: Drug dealing? - M. (5th Oct 2015 - 18:54:11) In my personal opinion there is nothing wrong with cannabis, infact i hate it when people say its a "gateway drug" its not, there such things as gateway dealers who offer you other narcs. thats what makes people go onto other drugs and at the end of the day it their own fault for being so idiotic to actually buy it. another thing cannabis is not addictive. the media are feeding you utter rubbish everyone has this view on something they actually have no idea about. people need to change there ways and realize because i would rather have my kids smoking weed than drinking alcohol.

Re: Drug dealing? - sarah (5th Oct 2015 - 20:36:58) It's a shame this person has no self respect and the lesson is having to be learned the hard way. Maybe once a mark is made on his criminal record he will review his life choices and pick a better path. My thoughts go out to all those reading this who personally know the described offender, I don't agree with the way this post has been made, however I do think it's in the best interest.

Re: Drug dealing? - D (5th Oct 2015 - 22:26:45) M - you are wrong. Cannabis IS addictive. I have personal experience to confirm this.

Re: Drug dealing? - claire (6th Oct 2015 - 04:25:23) No one should bury their head in the sand and think that because Liphook is a "nice little village" it is immune to the country wide , easily available and cheap(in comparison to when I was in my teens) drug culture. Best thing parents can do is educate themselves to the types of drugs that are easily accessible to their kids and how to recognise indicators of drug use and abuse. When my kids were at Bohunt they had a series of educational evenings which I found valuable. I would bet that if you have a teen they know far more about drugs (and their availability) than you do.

Re: Drug dealing? - Lips (6th Oct 2015 - 06:03:17) D, Cannabis may or may not be addictive. Also addictive are Paracetamol and chocolate and an endless list of consumable substances and non-consumable objects. Each could be descried as 'gateway' addiction and have terrible on the addicted and the surroundings. People predisposed to such habits and denied of proper information will fall for one or another addiction. The point is, by not legalising cannabis and the like, the consumption goes underground, surrounded by taboos and misconceptions. Weaker people fall for the sharks who thrive underground. The answer is EDUCATING of such substances alongside LEGALISING & regulating their consumption. No amount of moaning on here or police enforcement will NEVER make the problem disappear. On the contrary, this is good hunting ground for the nasty illegal dealers.

Re: Drug dealing? - grant (6th Oct 2015 - 10:12:15) There are all sorts of things which people would want to see legalised for different reasons. The reasons have to benefit the whole of society, not just the user. Yes alcohol addiction is nasty, yes cigarette addiction is bad, but society now does not condone either. Cannibis has a rate if addiction of over 12 per cent of those people who admit to taking it. All that would happen by legalising is that the government would slap a tax on it and that would almost double the prices!

Re: Drug dealing? - D (6th Oct 2015 - 11:50:22) Lips If you feel the legalising of cannabis will reduce the quantities used I feel your are naïve in the extreme.

Re: Drug dealing? - Lips (6th Oct 2015 - 14:39:15) I assume problematic cannabis users and pushers are part of society and cannabis-related problems affect society. Alleviating the problem is thus very much in the interest of the entire society. Legalising is not meant to reduce the quantities or the cost of cannabis. The legalising is to deal with the nasty aspects of the illegal trade, and to allow access to information, help and education on the subject. Tax on cannabis? Good idea, let the proceedings pay the costs involved in dealing with related problems Having said that, 1) I do believe some cannabis users will chose it BECAUSE of all the excitement and street-credit involved in illegal activities. Those users will need to find new thrills, I'm sure they will. 2)I do believe legalising COULD reduce the retail cost cannabis, will certainly regulate the market and remove the nastiest aspects of the illegal trade.

Re: Drug dealing? - Your name (6th Oct 2015 - 17:50:51) To all you snobs out there that spend there lives looking out there Windows into other Peoples business not only do you need to grow up you need to Wake up! Just because some kid is smoking a spliff in the park doesnt mean the Guy with the BMW next door isnt, you would be shocked at the amount of People that smoke from all ways of Life from respectable mums to teachers, even a couple of shop owners in Liphook Square like a joint or two but i wont mention names aha. Oh and to finish off the Guy who said it can lead to things Like death by overdoes you really need to learn your stuff before you comment but thanks for making me chuckle.

Re: Drug dealing? - grant (6th Oct 2015 - 18:38:06) I cannot see the government legalising something which has now been shown to have such health negatives, apparently sniffing glue has less effect on health than cannabis. Walk into a cannabis cafe in Amsterdam, the customers look worse than alcoholics! Where can you find definitive answers that it is not harmful to health and not addictive?

Re: Drug dealing? - mac (7th Oct 2015 - 12:17:45) I am glad drug taking makes you chuckle. Drugs can lead people to do awful ie. Throwing yourself off a bridge etc. Hilarious eh?!!!!!! No its awful and sad, we should not let drugs be an ok thing. So chuckle away until it affects you!

Re: Drug dealing? - How sad (7th Oct 2015 - 13:04:49) All this death related stuff about cannabis is irelavent people do NOT die from smoking weed yeah people do jump of bridges when taken hard chemical drugs but if your going to sit and take those then don't be a lightweight and do stupid things like jump off a bridge putting other people's lives in danger as well, suicide is suicide it's the person that does it not the substance and if cannabis is such a terrible drug then why would it be legal to take in certain country's for medical reasons which surly suggests it does do some good and not only that cannabis has never lead to any deaths of anything drinking is 1000% worse it causes so many deaths a year

Re: Drug dealing? - A Dad (7th Oct 2015 - 19:26:21) Surely the main point is that Drug dealing, if that is what is happening, in the park, is not on and should be stopped If someone was in the park selling Vodka, Cider and Jaeger Bombs - that should be stopped too

Re: Drug dealing? - D (7th Oct 2015 - 21:59:54) As a parent and grandfather to a teenager I am amazed at the flippant comments of so many posters on this site. As a former Senior Police Officer with experience in the Drug Squad I can easily pinpoint those contributors who are users and or dealers. I rest my case.

Re: Drug dealing? - Caroline (7th Oct 2015 - 22:01:06) How sad Your post is extremely pathetic! Canabis is illegal in this country and not in some. Guns are legal in America but not here. We live in the UK and as far as I'm aware canabis is an illegal substance and therefore should not be sold or smoked in a children's bloody play area. I live next door to a pot smoking low life who by the way started off on the canabis and is now onto the harder drugs. Your post is absolutely disgusting.

Re: Drug dealing? - Mils (7th Oct 2015 - 23:35:44) I think I saw this person described around liphook this evening in a different area but I didn't do anything because I wasn't 100% sure.. my house backs on to radford so ill keep my eyes and ears peeled and the same while I'm out and about like tonight!! Disgraceful, the point of this post wasn't to compare drugs to alcohol or whatever or debate which is worse it's simply to put a stop to illegal activity taking place in front of our children!! The lot of you need to grow up! Think the person has moved spots so keep an eye out all round liphook

Re: Drug dealing? - Lily (10th Oct 2015 - 11:51:21) This happens everywhere, unfortunately the small time pushers in parks etc have no regard for anyone's children as they most probably weren't regarded themselves as children. I'm not suggesting anyone should sympathise with them, however if one is not taught a moral code, one is not likely to be morally inclined. As for reporting them to the police, don't waste your time on a statement, don't waste your energy on a phone call. I can't go into particulars but I've given actual evidence of a very very serious offence and the force and the services have done nothing at all. The dealing will always be a problem whichever hamlet, village, town or city we live in. It's a dirty problem, but like parasites and pests, can only be kept at bay but not fully controlled.

Re: Drug dealing? - CROL (10th Oct 2015 - 21:30:38) That's where you're wrong. The police are on their toes for catching this dealer and would not turn down the opportunity to do so. So do please spend time calling 101 if you see anything suspicious. It may not seem common for police to sort out drug dealers, but they have got their foot in the door and will look for any opportunity to kick it down. I never made this post to compare drugs to alcohol or anything like that, it was made to give people awareness of the reality of Liphook and put a stop to some of the worst aspects to it. It's a shame to have a dealer as disrespectful as him to be part of our community, along with many other offenders.

Re: Drug dealing? - Lily (11th Oct 2015 - 02:22:11) I would ask why your so confident in the police force catching your drug peddling criminal? The person/s is known to the police as they've been reported etc. I would want to know why said alleged criminal has not been bought to justice? Seems like no attempt to arrest let alone charged. The police hands are tied, in any situation there must be sufficient evidence to produce to cps. It is not that I'm not confident in the officers, often they know exactly what is what but they are not cps, magistrate, judge or juror. I hope I'm wrong, but I believe this situation will be logged but not priority. The council tax you pay to fund justice will most probably be used on crimes easy to convict(ie pub brawl, theft from a supermarket) I wish this situation would stop, though I do think that one dealer will resign and another recruited. Regards

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