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Man following woman and young girls - Tracey (21st Jul 2015 - 18:23:05) Yesterday Monday 20th July my 12yr old daughter and her friend was sat at the skate park, a man walked past them then returned a minute later and sat behind a bush staring at them, the girls were very worried so left. Today Tuesday 21st July I was doing the afternoon school run and was closely followed by this same man, he kept stopping in front of me and just staring at me and my children. I over took him but he kept walking faster to over take me and repeat the staring. He did that a number of times and I started to panic so called hubby. The man noticed hubby walking towards us and crossed the road and went into sainsburys where he then bent down behind a wall. At the time we didn't realise it was the same man stalking my daughter The day before. The police have been informed and will be shown a picture of this man. I was absolutely terrified so can't imagine how a young child would feel in that situation. As the school holidays start tomorrow please be extra vigilant.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Louise (21st Jul 2015 - 19:56:24) How frightening for you and your family. Could you provide a description? I will forward this onto as many friends as possible. Thank you for making us aware.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Dawn Hoskins (21st Jul 2015 - 20:27:41) The schools should probably be alerted to give out a general warning to the youngsters. Also Sainsburys have CCTV cameras so can probably give an image. I hope you feel better, these things can create panic and worry long after the event.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Rachel (21st Jul 2015 - 22:07:46) This is very familiar! About a month ago my daughter and I had the exact same thing!!! This man kept following my daughter and I over several weeks! It got to the point one day when he frightened us both so much, that I called my husband and 19 year old son to come and rescue us! The man continued to follow us (my daughter he was following, I just happened to be with her) until my husband and son arrived. They could see for themselves what he was doing so walked right up to this man and asked him to explain himself. By this time my daughter was in tears and I was fuming. I also went to talk to the man and "have a go". Thankfully since he was rumbled and told nicely not to do it again, he has stopped following my daughter. I am horrified to learn he has started (if it is him) on someone else! One very angry mother.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Ashlie (21st Jul 2015 - 23:55:12) I have seen the man twice, Once he was bent down near gables sat staring at everyone that walked passed and another time at the pub talking and laughing away to himself. Very odd man!

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Laura (22nd Jul 2015 - 07:41:30) Hi can we please have a description of this man so we can all be virulent and keep our eyes open x

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Louise (22nd Jul 2015 - 08:13:25) Infant/Junior school have been alerted and I will mention to Bohunt today. Thanks Dawn for suggesting this.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - stacey (22nd Jul 2015 - 10:10:23) We still need a description, of this man, I notice this all the time in the summer, when men stare at young girls? I saw it myself when a school party in Alton yesterday were singing and raising money for charity, several men were stood on their own fixedly staring only at the young girls, not a nice sight. If you look at the " every day sexism" twitter feed you would be horrified at what happens, and some men do not draw the line at staring and following! It is unfortunate in this day and age that this still goes on but it should be part of the sex education given to young people by their parents that older men can behave in this way, then at least the younger person is more alert to it as well.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Rachel (22nd Jul 2015 - 10:34:03) The man that was persistently following my daughter, hiding behind trees and going in to the same shops to watch and follow her was an Asian man about 5 foot 6". He never once spoke (until we confronted him) just waited and followed. Very unsettling and frightening.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Tracey (22nd Jul 2015 - 11:03:45) He looked Eastern European, brown cropped hair, 5ft 8ish, white top, blue jeans and trainers.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Lisa (22nd Jul 2015 - 11:51:15) There's quite a difference between someone of Eastern European and Asian appearance, so I'm not sure that this is a reliable part of the description --- can I also ask roughly how old this man is? I have two daughters, one in particular who is just starting to want some more independence, so this is very worrying....

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Ashie (22nd Jul 2015 - 12:23:41) I think everyone has their own opinion of what someone looks like but I would say Eastern Europe looking, maybe early fourties

Re: Man following woman and young girls - ///--( (22nd Jul 2015 - 13:12:15) There are some Eastern Europeans in caravans in the field on the corner of Chiltlee Lane. They appear to walk around Liphook with Sainsburys bags full of beer, empty beer cans seen along Chiltlee. All have close cropped hair roughly in their forties.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Mrs (22nd Jul 2015 - 13:40:43) Has anyone phoned the police?

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Lips (22nd Jul 2015 - 14:09:12) I agree, and also seen on the lawns of Chiltlee MANOR, hiding in the bushes, empty beer cans and unduly staring at girls.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Mrs (22nd Jul 2015 - 14:16:29) I think the police should be called ASAP, I don't want to hold my girls prisoners in there own home but i wont be letting them out until something is done.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - P Weyland (22nd Jul 2015 - 14:36:39) Everyone needs to post this on social media - get this to the level of awareness it requires. Not everyone looks in Talkback.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - ACW (22nd Jul 2015 - 14:47:35) If you read the first message you will see The police HAVE been informed

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Mrs (22nd Jul 2015 - 14:57:49) Can you let me know what the police have said/done about this?

Re: Man following woman and young girls - stacey (22nd Jul 2015 - 16:53:52) I hope the local newspaper reports on this to make people more aware, also if he knows that parents are watching him in return, may be less inclined to do it.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Nicole (22nd Jul 2015 - 17:51:50) I was walking home with my two young children a few weeks back around school closing hours and saw a man that seems similar to the description (weather or not it was him) he was sat up by the wall next to gables, I know you shouldn\\\'t judge a book by its cover but to put it straight he gave me the creeps ! As he was just literally staring at me. Few days after that at school closing hours again saw him in the same spot and I was outside gables as stopped to talk to friends I had bumped into, he came up to us randomly and asked if there was a computer shop here as he wanted to buy a laptop we told him that there is a computer shop just over the road but don\\\'t think they sell computers. He then just went back over to the same spot he was sitting in and sat down, seemed abit strange to us all. My uncle then saw the same man acting very weird by the peak centre in midhurst car park.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - P Weyland (22nd Jul 2015 - 19:16:09) Some people have spoken to him; can they verify if he had an accent or anything else descriptive about his voice? This all helps build up the profile.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Wendy Walker (22nd Jul 2015 - 19:41:23) May I suggest if anyone has a photo of this man that it goes on facebook

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Rachel (22nd Jul 2015 - 21:01:25) My husband spoke with him and would say "Indian" He had very dark short hair and brown skin, about 5foot 6 inches. He is in his forties. Wether or not this is true, he told my husband he worked in the [removed by editor]. I really thought he was just obsessed with my 17 year old daughter who dresses in the "cute" style! I never once thought he would go on to start following other girls. Both my daughter and I were in tears about this man, he was so obvious despite hiding behind trees!

Re: Man following woman and young girls - stacey (23rd Jul 2015 - 10:19:58) Hi there, [removed text by editor] I personally had a similar problem in Grayshott many years ago. I was not a teenager, probably about 35, and an indian chap followed me into a chemist, and groped me from behind. This has also happened to me before several times, so I smacked him on the face and shouted angrily at him about why he had done this. He did not look at all apologetic or embarrassed, but I felt better! I think we do All need to challenge him before he moves on to doing something worse? Maybe group action will at least make him aware he is known to the community who is watching him.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - tony (23rd Jul 2015 - 11:56:28) Its worth noting that a lot of the northern gangs have had to move out of places like Rotherham now that the police there are being forced to do something about it. The scale of abuse was almost industrial, up to 3500 girls, so they must have a pretty effective method, the schools need to take the lead in educating children appropriately as not everyone has a vigilant family behind them.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - liz (23rd Jul 2015 - 12:45:49) I think the last thing we need in Liphook is a group of vigilantes. If people know or think they know who this man is they should contact the police (I know some have) and provide photos if possible.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Sar (23rd Jul 2015 - 13:28:33) I've been reading all the threads so I thought I would say that twice in the last month I have seen a man matching the description sitting on the pavement on the busy portsmouth road just past the Links (opposite side of road to the golf course). Whilst he wasn't doing anything wrong, he was staring at me as I drove out of our driveway and onto the main road. It could be totally innocent but I just thought it was a strange place to sit and he held my eye for way too long. All very strange!

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Rosaleen (23rd Jul 2015 - 13:51:29) I've seen this man too sitting on the pavement in the same spot only two days ago ,we were driving past and thought it seemed odd but if I remember right he looked quite young maybe mid to late 20s

Re: Man following woman and young girls - stacey (23rd Jul 2015 - 18:20:19) I agree no viglilanties but us just looking at him back and not saying anything will not help a young girl who gets followed. If we see hin doing this just Say to him, why are you staring at me ? and he may be embarrassed, if enough people make him aware. Looking at him back will only probably encourage him? We are too english in our approach and hope the problem will just go away!

Re: Man following woman and young girls - kirk (24th Jul 2015 - 12:12:44) Please be careful if you approach him, we need photographic or video evidence! he may have mental health issues, look at what happened to the 2 lads that approached a guy with mental health issues, in Havant recently? It would scare the scrap out of me, if followed by a man, and im a 44 year old woman, and i know how intimidating it is for a Muslim man to stare at girls and women, as their culture a female has to be covered. Im not saying this man is Muslim, but whats the chances of an Asian/Eastern European or Indian not being Muslim? but in saying that, it is unacceptable to do what he is doing. Please Be Careful. What are the police saying about his behaviour?

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Krishna (24th Jul 2015 - 13:10:16) Kirk, there are many other religions in the areas you mention. He may be atheist for all you know! Let's not assume his religion has anything to do with what he is doing and focus on his behaviour which must be stopped. Love and peace K

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Rachel (24th Jul 2015 - 13:29:27) My husband has spoken to him to ask him what he was up to! The man just laughed nervously and denied everything! He had an Indian accent. We didn\'t take it any further as we hoped that was that, and he would just stop doing it! Obviously we were wrong.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - stacey (24th Jul 2015 - 13:31:57) I am not suggesting going too close! but saying nothing will not make him aware that it is not acceptable to do that. I only have to listen to what happens to women in public in India to think that if he has got used to behaving in that way perhaps living there, he will be in the habit. I do not believe we should think about political correctness, only about what potentially could happen if he is following young girls. As someone who has had it happen to herself I know how distressing it is, and unacceptable here, regardless of what colour, creed he is. I have had this sort of thin happen to me about 4 times and no one helped me, just looked the other way. A very young girl would be very distressed.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - claire (26th Jul 2015 - 06:15:54) It maybe worth letting the managers at the doctors surgeries know. Because he is so blatant he may be known to the community mental health team and they would need to be aware.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - stacey (26th Jul 2015 - 10:52:36) I think it is more likely to be an ingrained mysoginistic cultural issue rather than a mental health issue, If it is normal practice in an asian/ middle eastern culture? also with the data protection act no one in the surgery is going to discuss a patient with someone else. The only way is to pester the police for more community support officers to look.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - claire (26th Jul 2015 - 15:52:05) Stacey, I wasn't suggesting that the surgery would breach the data protection act. The surgery could however (if they believed it was a patient of theirs who was under CMHS ) make their CPN aware. I was just trying to suggest another action that could be taken by concerned people. However it was obviously a ridiculous suggestion Stacey therefore please all ignore it.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Concerned parent (28th Oct 2017 - 22:04:10) Just bringing this to peoples attention as tonight at the carnival My Daughter and three friends were followed by two men of similar description to this man. I would like to say a huge thank you to the lovely air ambulance man in the square who looked after them until I could get to them. They had their whole evening spoilt by these two men so if they can read and get to see this THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - ... (30th Oct 2017 - 01:13:19) Hello, I'm a teenage girl and I'm out and about in Liphook alot of days and every so often I'll have to walk somewhere on my own. There has been without fail men from their 30s-60s beeping their horns at me, yesterday when I took a walk by myself from the Station Area to down nearby the co-operative I had 3 different occasions of this happening, one man who was on his own even stopped his van and pulled down his window and started shouting at me, but I just ignored and walked on. I was also a few months ago catcalled by the builders who are working on the new industrial estate next to the station. Earlier on in the week I also had to get the train on my own and these two older men in their 50s came on to the station platform as a pair but then one of the decided to come under the shelter where I was sat on one of the benches and he then squeeze behind the small gap behind the bench and stood directly behind me and I was very uncomfortable. After him being there for a few minutes he then walked round the bench and stood directly in front of me and just continued to stare at me, then he proceeded to come sit next to me when there was clearly a number of other seats he could have choosen, but he sat right close up next to me. I am genuinely disgusted that I cannot go out of the house as a teenager with out being conscious of a man/men shouting at me for no apparent reason.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - sarah (30th Oct 2017 - 08:31:05) I may be labelled racist but having visited some countries in Asia it is very much the cultural norm for white women to be stared at and subjected to sexual comments, touching and abuse. I was alone travelling in Malaysia and was propositioned several times, including by a man who was showing me photos of his wife and family, then cheerily asked if I would like to have sex with him. Another man walked into my room and tried to kiss me. I was in my early thirties at the time, so I imagine young girls are even more appealing. (Not all men I have to add, I was treated incredibly well by a group of students) Remember the New Year Eve mass assaults on women in Germany? There is a huge cultural difference, and this doesn't disappear just by stepping onto British soil.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Anne (30th Oct 2017 - 10:47:07) Sarah, you've made this sound like this sort of behaviour in Liphook is acceptable. Just because other countries behave so appallingly, it is NOT acceptable here and no female, or male for that matter, should ever be put under such discomfort or fear.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Ann (30th Oct 2017 - 11:04:31) If the station has CCTV it should be picked up on that - maybe able to identify the men.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - I (30th Oct 2017 - 12:40:37) It is a sad reflection of the times that so many women feel threatened in this way. However it would be easy to brand all males in some of the instances described as potential molesters but I would hope this is extremely rare. I quite frequently use the late trains and will often walk home and there will often be women walking in front of me. Sometimes I do feel concerned that my simple presence may be causing anxiety, but what can I do? I just happen to be walking home in the same direction. I have on occasion fallen back just to put some distance between us and have crossed the road to walk on a different pavement but nonetheless you can still sometimes feel awkward.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - sarah (30th Oct 2017 - 15:28:26) Quite the opposite Anne, I think it is unacceptable anywhere, just explaining that it may be seen as fine in other cultures does not make it fine there or here.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Concerned parent (30th Oct 2017 - 18:00:42) As was pointed out to me these men had not touched my daughter or her friends apart from breathing down their necks and making them feel extremely uncomfortable so the police wouldn’t do anything. My daughter went to a policeman in the square and they were all visibly shaken and upset and were told ‘you know what to do stay in sight where there’s lots ot people’ and he had to dash off to the bonfire! If it wasn’t for the St. John’s ambulance young man I dread to think how they would of been as these men then stood outside of a takeaway establishment in the square watching them with all these people around. It is a sorry state of affairs if young girls can’t walk freely on our streets without feeling intimidated.

Re: Man following woman and young girls - Alice (30th Oct 2017 - 19:22:06) To be honest I've never had any problem at all with men around liphook, if your all that bothered, get an alarm or if you feel so threatened, call the police, one person says one thing, then another person says something else, it all gets blown out of proportion. And I see youngsters roaming about in the dark, when clearly the parents should be keeping them in at 10pm!!

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