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rubbish on the A3 - mrs G (1st Mar 2015 - 13:02:26) Can anyone shed any light on the fact that the council appear to have spent time collecting rubbish along the A3 into their normal black bags and then appear to have sent their edge/hedge cutting/mowing team along before collecting the bags???? Result......rubbish strewn from Liss to Guildford! !!

Re: rubbish on the A3 - s (1st Mar 2015 - 19:05:53) I noticed this today. I think it looks awful and will now take twice as long to clean the mess up.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - jackie (1st Mar 2015 - 19:40:58) This was all uncovered a few weeks ago when they hacked back the gorse. It has not yet got to the stage of being in black bags! It looks awful doesn't it?

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Susie (1st Mar 2015 - 20:04:42) It was on here that there were volunteers spotted picking up the rubbish before they massacred the trees. Well done to them, I think we all need to go out, it's a horrendous mess especially at the layby before the Hindhead turning.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - A. Ryan (1st Mar 2015 - 20:20:47) It is appalling, why Hampshire and Surrey Councils have not organised a clean up I do not know. I would suggest a ban on any trader selling food on laybys if this is going to be the result.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Lips (2nd Mar 2015 - 06:30:48) Yes, I too think lay-by activity has much to do with this littering in the first place - although i am no fan of general bans. Litter collection is good, but best to start by reducing litter generation. With increasing urbanisation and austerity measures, we best get used to such unpleasantness...

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Dollypops (2nd Mar 2015 - 09:05:00) Surely what is more awful is that people leave their rubbish expecting someone else to pick it up! I am absolutely aghast at this attitude. CCTV cameras should be installed in laybys so that the culprits can be fined. Or what about using the speed cameras for something useful?! Schools should start teaching children about not leaving litter if their parents are not capable, so that the future might be tidier, eventually. Meanwhile those on community service could give their service picking up the current litter. Why should council tax players have to subsidise the laziness of others? Yes , I feel exceedingly strongly about this subject and always have!!

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Nelly (2nd Mar 2015 - 10:20:09) I agree with you in all respects Dollypops; if you want to see even more roadside rubbish go along the Bordon to Wrecclesham road or the Farnborough dual carriageway. I can`t believe that people can be so filthy and one wonders if they have the same habits in and around their own home!! Maybe those who receive benefits could do this clearing up as a means of contributing towards those benefits.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Dawn Hoskins (2nd Mar 2015 - 10:32:23) In every county across this country, cuts have been made to public spending. Difficult decisions have to be made to ensure that services provided to the vulnerable remain in place - and even then - some ar not. It is a choice to throw rubbish out of your car window. It is a disgusting and ignorant choice - but it is a choice none-the-less. I was driving the Road from Bordon to Farnham yesterday and that is an horrendous mess full of sandwich cartons, crisp packets and bottles - sold for convenience by people who eat in their cars then just fling it out into the road and verges. It is the pigs that feel happy to litter their own environments that should be ashamed of themselves. I have been raised to never do this and have raised my children to never do this. Some have not. It is those of us that have been raised to think this is disgusting behavior that feel so offended by the mess. we will all nod our heads in agreement with one another at how awful it is that people do this. The people that don't give a sh*t will either not be reading this - or read it but carry on regardless. If you had a choice to feed old people, keep the homeless safe, protect vulnerable children and adults OR send out large teams of paid litter pickers - which would you pick? Which service would you drop? My view is that a compulsory youth community service of some sort should be introduced so that youth grow up with a sense of pride. If you have spent a short while fixing a problem that has been created by someone else - it opens you eyes to that problem and the ramifications. Therefore, a young person with pride will grow into an adult with pride.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - liz (2nd Mar 2015 - 10:56:22) If the first poster's comments are correct, that is unbelievable incompetence and a complete waste of money.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Ian (2nd Mar 2015 - 11:04:48) Quite agree with the sentiments in this thread. It would seem appropriate to me that offenders such as the person who recently drove their car into Moss Court whilst under the influence of drugs and drink are ideal candidates to provide a community litter cleaning service instead of being given fines which are pretty paltry and don't really act as a deterrent. It would certainly effect my decision making process if I thought I was going to be spending my weekends in a high viz jacket picking up litter on the A3 as a consequence

Re: rubbish on the A3 - JR (2nd Mar 2015 - 15:16:13) A couple of weeks ago the annual Passfield Litter Pick took place. Local residents went out on a Sunday morning and picked up all the litter. Arrangements were made with the council to collect the pickings a few days later. They did a stunning job and the areas look great. Well done to them. Maybe this suggests that the residents of Liphook and the surrounding areas could spare an hour on a Sunday morning once a year? Get out and get some exercise! :-) Maybe a local business could sponsor the event with high-vis vests, pick-up sticks and black bags? The unfortunate thing is that road safety is a concern in some places. The A3 presents difficulties and may require lane closures? Maybe HCC could provide some assistance?

Re: rubbish on the A3 - m (2nd Mar 2015 - 17:55:11) The responsible authority would appear to be the Highways Agency. Could I suggest that you all send an email to them, as I have done, and they might take action! ha_info@highways.gsi.gov.uk

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Jay W (2nd Mar 2015 - 19:56:55) There is so much varied rubbish along the A3, A325 and A331 Blackwater Valley route (we noticed this in particular few weeks ago) that I can't quite believe that it has all come from passing cars. It is strewn all along the hedgerows such that it looks like it came from the back of a passing bin lorry or similar. It isn't just take away food debris but all sorts and it certainly is disgusting. What is wrong with the people in this country - have we no pride in ourselves or our surroundings any more? I personally think individuals litter picking on these routes would be extremely foolhardy and by comparison the litter in the towns and villages is nowhere near as bad - hence my disbelief that it all comes from passing cars. Apart from cigarette ends (which are also illegal) I rarely see people throw any rubbish from a car. Maybe I've just been lucky.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Dollypops (2nd Mar 2015 - 20:54:47) I would have thought that the responsible "authority" was the person who dropped the rubbish in the first place. With regard to the choice of paying for services for the elderly or clearing the rubbish - there should not be a choice; the rubbish should not be there. There is not an endless pot of OUR money to pay for this. Why should you and I pay our taxes for these lazy and mannerless people. I have thought that a notice, particularly in lay-bys from which much of the rubbish gets blown about, could indicate that the rubbish which surrounds them whilst eating their lunch may have been left by them last time and perhaps they may like to remember to take it with them this time, or will attract a charge for removing it by way of a fine, once the CCTV cameras are in place. I am incensed by these people who so degrade our environment. Perhaps we should remove the lay-bys? Again, Yes, I am angry.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Jackie (2nd Mar 2015 - 23:13:17) The litter picking fairies appear to have been out today and the A3 is much better now.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Janet (2nd Mar 2015 - 23:26:27) I must have missed the advertising of the "annual Passfield Litter Pick" as I knew noting about it. I've lived in Passfield for nearly 30 years and have never heard of it!!

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Keith (3rd Mar 2015 - 09:34:33) Not that I often agree with Dawn, but on this issue, she is absolutely right. The sad fact is that in this time of austerity, councils and government departments have to make a choice, between protecting the vulnerable and provide education for our children, or providing litter pickers. The A3 in particular, poses real difficulties, as due to the speed of traffic it would require lane closures of the inside lane for the safety of those picking up the litter. Several people mentioned that those on community payback sentences could be used for this purpose. On the face of it this sound like a good idea, however, even this has a cost to the local council, as while this service used to be free, the probation service now charge a daily fee to Councils for the use of these offenders to cover the salaries of the staff needed to supervise them and their transport costs to the site. Under the probation service rules, the number of supervisors needed in ratio to the number of offenders is quite high, and so the cost of using the community payback team can be quite significant. So it brings us back to square one, the need for parents in particular to educate their children to take their litter home. When I was a youngster, if I'd thrown rubbish out of the car window, I would have got a severe telling off from my parents. However, I think local councils do have a part to play in this too, in that a number of laybys either lack sufficient bins, or the bins are constantly full, so rubbish overflows onto the ground. To those who say why not CCTV - We already have more CCTV than pretty well any country in Europe, do you really want yet more observation of us all as we go about our daily activities? On a practical point, the cost of installing CCTV on this scale would be enormous, and I think many would feel the money was better spent in other ways

Re: rubbish on the A3 - James (3rd Mar 2015 - 10:29:19) I actually saw a Hampshire County Council member of staff drop a 3L bottle of coke on the side of the Headley Road. They were in a HCC marked car. I took a photo of the car with reg plate and complained to HCC and they never responded. I cleared up after their staff for them. If HCC investigated their complaints properly they could have spent this persons salary and pension on litter picking.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Kevin Jackson (3rd Mar 2015 - 13:54:21) James contact Ferris Cowper who is your Hampshire County Councillor. He is very pro-active and I am sure if you sent him photographic evidence of Hampshire County Council member of staff dropping a 3L bottle of coke on the side of the Headley Road and they were in a HCC marked car, he would take action.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Irene Ellis (5th Mar 2015 - 16:43:55) Liphook in Bloom organise a litter picking morning every year around Liphook. This year it will be held on April 19th. We meet at the Midhurst Road Car Park at 9-30am and EHDC will be providing the bags & Sticks. All are welcome to join us so hope to see you all there.

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Keith Thomas (6th Mar 2015 - 11:59:40) Hooray, driving north from Ham Barn roundabout up the A3 this morning (Fri 6th) and men are clearing litter !

Re: rubbish on the A3 - Julian (10th Mar 2015 - 14:18:02) Apparently Winchester City Council are co-coordinating the clean-up. Despite there being little mention of it in their statement, they are in Partnership with East Hants District Council. I can't find any mention of it on the EHDC web site! Nice to see they are keeping everyone informed. Maybe representatives of the councils could post updates here? Anyway, here is the statement (make of it what you will); www.winchester.gov.uk/waste-and-recycling/

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