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Train station parking
- Simon (5th Feb 2013 - 19:29:03)

I know this is a common cause of complaint on this forum, but I remain frustrated by the lack of courtesy and common sense shown by people who park their vehicles near Liphook train station before heading into London.
This evening I witnessed someone get off the Portsmouth bound train and return to his car parked in the spaces outside the Station Road shops. Presumably this vehicle had been parked here all day.
Surely these spaces are provided for people wishing to use the shops for a short period of time.
I appreciate that there may be nothing illegal in this, but unless the relevant authorities provide a solution for communter parking, retailers and residents will continue to suffer.

Re: Train station parking
- Heather (5th Feb 2013 - 20:46:39)

There was an article in the press recently about this issue in another area and how some residents rent out their private driveways for a weekly fee. I would :)

Re: Train station parking
- PaulRobinson (6th Feb 2013 - 07:31:47)

For the past ten days I have been monitoring the parking near the station and find to my surprise that the designated station car park is never more than two thirds full.

Since the removal of Railtrack's portacabins, all day parking in the designated car park can be obtained, even at peak times, for little more than the cost of a Starbucks Skiinny Latte.

So called displacement parking in Portsmouth Road, Canada Way, Newtown Road and the shoppers car park in Station Road is invariably bumper to bumper.

Commuters should note that whilst this is technically not illegal at the moment, steps are being taken to restrict the use of the Station Road car park to four hours before a fine is levied.

Retailers in Station Road need parking spaces for their customers if they are to compete with Sainsburys. Retailing is difficult enough without the problem of inconsiderate parking.

Paul Robinson


Re: Train station parking
- Simon (6th Feb 2013 - 09:04:44)

Great post Paul, and good to hear news about the proposed restricted parking time in Station Road.

Re: Train station parking
- KC (6th Feb 2013 - 15:53:51)

The cost of daily car parking as you say above is only equivalent to a skinny latte, but for commuters into London the daily cost of the train is the equivalent to the latte and the Bosch coffee-maker it came from.

Any saving long-suffering commuters can make are being understandably made.

I suggest you vent your spleen at South West Trains and the government policy rather than the oppressed rail traveller.

Re: Train station parking
- CK (6th Feb 2013 - 16:01:10)

re-

"This evening I witnessed someone get off the Portsmouth bound train and return to his car parked in the spaces outside the Station Road shops. Presumably this vehicle had been parked here all day"

Of course your presumption may well be wrong, buy hey-ho why spoil a good argument....

Re: Train station parking
- w (6th Feb 2013 - 16:26:56)

If you restrict the parking outside the shops it will make the problem worse for the surrounding road like newtown road as the commuters will park in these roads leaving no space for the residents. All this does is move the problem not solve it. I suppose that it is to much to ask that they pay for their parking.

Re: Train station parking
- Catherine (6th Feb 2013 - 18:37:45)

One solution would be to take advantage of the local bus service to and from the station, my neighbours and I have managed to change the Number 13 bus timetable to coincide with the SW Train arrival times into Liphook. I personally prefer to use the bus, but realise that the service isn't convenient for everyone.

Re: Train station parking
- Richard (6th Feb 2013 - 18:42:18)

Alternatively train car parks could be free, as the price of parking could be included in the ticket price...?! Don't see that catching on though...Does anyone else? After all we probably paid for them in the first place (along with all public owned car parks)

Re: Train station parking
- Simon (7th Feb 2013 - 05:52:10)

CK - thanks for your helpful comment...the point is that the spaces outside the shops should not be used by train users at all, as I'm sure the retailers would agree.

These spaces should be restricted to a limited time period, and local roads should be restricted to residential use, as is the case with many other towns and villages.

Re: Train station parking
- CK (7th Feb 2013 - 10:19:32)

Simon,
might I suggest before you slag off rail users/commuters you do some proper homework.
The spaces outside the shops on both sides of Station Road DO have parking restricions already that would render it utterly pointless using them if you are a commuter. The last time I checked it is a 1 (or maybe 2) hour maximum stay with no return for an hour.
Can we end this ridiculous witch hunt.
Its people like you complaining that just ends up with Councils charging everyone to park in high streets .
Still never mind its only the cost of a Starbucks after all!

Re: Train station parking
- Simon (7th Feb 2013 - 12:47:37)

This post was certainly not intended as a 'witch hunt', just a plea to people using the train station to be considerate when parking their vehicles. I'm not 'slagging off' anyone. As a commuter myself I choose to walk to the station.

Unfortunately, a mere sign indicating a one hour parking restriction will not stop some people parking there for longer.

Re: Train station parking
- Janine (23rd May 2015 - 23:07:28)

in answer to Paul Robinsons thread regarding Liphook car park always being 2/3rds full... I don't know when you've been monitoring it both my husband and I both use it and both work shifts... If we want to park any later than 0900 we can rarely get a space and have to drive to Haslemere to park. The main reason people park elsewhere to commute has nothing to do with cost as it's actually very reasonable it's more to do with it being full... Twice this week alone on a late shift I've not been able to get a space at Liphook.

Re: Train station parking
- tony (24th May 2015 - 08:41:55)

As the station car park has reached capacity, how much worse is it going to get once the 4000 plus new eco houses are built in Bordon? They decided it would cost too much precious money to reinstate the old branch line, preferring instead to let them drive to the nearest town. That's two faced green thinking.

Since you can't find a free parking spot in Alton, Petersfield or Farnham I guess they'll be looking to Liphook, we're going to need a bigger car park, it could go on that spare land next to the Beaver estate.

Oh silly me, they've built another housing estate there already.

Re: Train station parking
- roo (24th May 2015 - 18:21:04)

As people are complaining about the station parking what about the dangerous and inconsiderate parking on Midhurst rd service rd by the fire station, But nothing will be done about this until a serious accident happens or a pedestrian crossing the rd gets badly injured or killed, Perhaps these commuters could use the station car park instead of endangering others

Re: Train station parking
- Jay W (24th May 2015 - 20:28:05)

Err Roo, isn't that what the previous two posters have said? The station car park is full? Where else can they park?

Bad planning all round but never mind let's keep building the houses with not enough parking spaces and extending the schools but not adding parking, put on your rose tinted "planner" glasses and all will be well.



Re: Train station parking
- roo (25th May 2015 - 08:09:28)

Just a reply to jay w I did read the previous posts. And my comment was made, as at 5,30 am there are already cars parked both sides causing problems. And If I go to work late at 7.30 am it is full both sides , SURELY the station car park is not full at these times . And thanks for the snarky sarcastic comments JAY W , they were really needed.

Re: Train station parking
- Jay W (25th May 2015 - 12:34:53)

Oh dear roo,

The comments in the second paragraph weren't aimed at you - unless you are a planner? :)

Happy bank holiday!

Re: Train station parking
- Helen (1st Jun 2015 - 10:54:54)

Janine

I walked past the Station Car Park and back again on Fri 29th May and also again Mon 1st June between 9.00am & 11.00 am and both times I counted 12+ empty parking spaces.

Friday was half term so probably not a far day to count to be honest.

Re: Train station parking
- Wo (1st Jun 2015 - 13:04:15)

People park at the entrance to Gunns Farm too - it`s just a short walk over the bridge and down the steps to the station.

Re: Train station parking
- Lucy (5th Jun 2015 - 20:54:40)

It is what it is! Let's be grateful our situation isn't as bad as haslemeres (yet)

Re: Train station parking
- Elliott (5th Jun 2015 - 23:13:11)

I've watched people parking on the entrance to Maple Park at 5:55am and I can tell you, the car park is very much empty!

When challenge why they don't use the station car park, "I can't be bovered", was the reply. As yes, it was with a "v".

The sooner the double yellows get painted, the better.


Re: Train station parking
- Richard (6th Jun 2015 - 08:03:25)

While on the subject of rubbish parking...

Liphook Infants School. Two PCSOs standing outside, but no tickets issues to cars obstructing pavements (ie. parking on the pavements). Discuss!

Re: Train station parking
- Helen (6th Jun 2015 - 08:10:39)

Friday 5th June 9.00am - 11.00 am. Still lots of Empty spaces!!

Re: Train station parking
- Lucy (6th Jun 2015 - 08:37:39)

Even if the car park was full, there would still be a lot of cars parked on residential streets because the car park isn't actually that big. Plus it is very expensive to pay for it on top of what commuters pay for trains, so I don't blame people for parking on streets. I'm sure many other people on here who moan about the situation would do exactly the same thing. Fact: if you live near a train station, you have to deal with commuters parking on your street.

Re: Train station parking
- Keith (6th Jun 2015 - 09:52:14)

Richard

I believe I am correct in saying that in East Hampshire the Police/PCSOs no longer have the power to issue parking tickets, EHDC and Havant Borough Council have taken on that role (and all of the associated costs of penalty collection etc).

The Police/PCSO would only do something about the vehicle if it was parked in such a position that it was likely to be a danger to other road users.

Re: Train station parking
- Ian (6th Jun 2015 - 10:03:10)

There appears to be a recurring topic on talkback where certain residents who live either near the station or the schools feel that they have some kind of ownership rights over the road outside their house. It seems appropriate to once again remind these people that unless there are parking restrictions or it is a private road then ANYONE is entitled to park where they like, for how long they like. I would add though I do sympathise for those people in Court Close that recently had to endure some twerp parking all day right on the corner with Midhurst Road making visibility completely impossible. It goes without saying I have no sympathy for those selfish individuals that park too close to junctions, driveways, on pavements, etc or park in dangerous (if not restricted) locations.
We have schools and a station in Liphook so inevitably there will be traffic and parking issues so lets show some collective tolerance, understanding and common sense over this.

Re: Train station parking
- tony (6th Jun 2015 - 11:04:10)

Elliott, what makes you think you can go up to someone parking near your house and 'challenge' them, when you don't own the road and there are no parking restrictions, chances are they've been parking there long before your estate was built! They probably meant to say "I can't be bovered to answer you"

But I agree Liphook is overbuilt when you can no longer park and some Liphook children can't get into infants or junior schools because they're oversubscribed, see the thread from Natalie (New to Area) below.

I heard (anecdotally) last September some children who were already in infants couldn't even move up to juniors, even though they had been within the catchment area when starting at infants, now they missed the cut, I'm guessing the cut is going to get narrower and narrower as more developments keep going up, but the hundreds of expected newbies children in the couple of hundred new homes in and around Bohunt Manor are going to be OK!.

Re: Train station parking
- roo (6th Jun 2015 - 16:03:55)

Obviously most of the comments on here are made by people who are not put in danger or inconvenienced by the inconsiderate parking around the village by people who will not pay for parking in station .

Re: Train station parking
- Lucy (6th Jun 2015 - 18:31:48)

Roo I don't see what the problem is as long as people park courteously. I actually have the same problem with people parking either side of my drive. As long as they leave me some room so I can see when I pull out I don't care if they park there.

Re: Train station parking
- jo herridge (6th Jun 2015 - 20:26:56)

I used to attend portsmouth uni until a couple of years ago. Parking in portsmouth is a nightmare so i decided to make my life easier and get the train. I drove to station as i have a bad foot. I parked in newtown road and i came back to find a rather rude note on my car telling me it was residents parking only and not to park there again. I was rather upset at this as i thought i had checked to make sure i could legally park there. I again checked for signs and there were none. As a single parent and a student, paying for parking was not affordable on top of travel costs. If i can park for free I will. Unfortunately we do lack parking facilities and it is likely to get worse.

Re: Train station parking
- Simon (7th Jun 2015 - 06:23:29)

Newtown Road has signs at both ends stating 'access only'.

Re: Train station parking
- jo herridge (9th Jun 2015 - 20:12:51)

I did access only. I accessed the road to park. I am allowed access, nowhere does it say do not park. What if I had actually been visiting someone for the day in that road? I would still have got a note.

Re: Train station parking
- Simon (9th Jun 2015 - 21:23:52)

Definition of access only: This sign means you can only enter this road/area for the purpose of gaining access, be it a place of residence, a workplace or you're visiting someone or delivering something. It is a No Through Road, in other words you cannot get elsewhere through there but the premises that are on there.

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